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Vince is still the head booker of Raw homie. Final say on Raw is always Vince no matter what.
Exactly, Final say but he doesn't actually put shyt together like he use to. Vince is too busy yelling in the commentators ears to be bothered with the matches/storylines.
 

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Exactly, Final say but he doesn't actually put shyt together like he use to. Vince is too busy yelling in the commentators ears to be bothered with the matches/storylines.
That's like saying the creator of a show is not writing and producing everything. Of course not, but it's his vision and the direction things go are by his guidance not HHH or the group of writers he has. So any blame on the state of the current product goes to him first and then trickles down because he has the say on how it's presented. He's as hands on with BOTH shows (yes Smackdown too) as he's ever been. This notion that he just shows up and sits in Gorilla barking orders and that's it is just not what's really happening.
 

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:stopitslime: Competition and the threat of deletion and the era in American culture and Vince Mcmahon and Stone Cold and the Rock and Foley and all the.other performers gave us the attitude era.

Russo gave us Choppy Choppy Pee Pee and Pepper on a Pole matches :trash:

Russo literally wrote the shows that you love, he gave those characters you love settings to shine in. Relax breh.

When they filmed 20 vignettes in one episode of vince at the hospital you think that wasnt Russo? All the fukkery, the zambonis and beer trucks....who do you think came up with that shyt?

Meanwhile on Raw now theres 0 pre taped anythings. Just laziness and yet fans somehow scapegoat the wrestlers. yall marks
 
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"Keep not watching and we wil go to 4 hrs next year"
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Basically it proves that the wwe fan base is just super hardcore fans and kids. NFL is true casuals and a cross section and are more fickle. If the wwe ARE SATISFIED, they should keep doing what they're doing. But if not, and their ability to sell ad space continues to dwindle, Monday proved that the NFL crowd is actually vulnerable and if wwe put on a compelling product with a reason to "event" watch it could grow.

You're proving GOATsso's greatness, only time in wrasslin history which lured CASUALS was when he penned it
 

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The nWo started that era. And russo booked that buildup, with input from sullivan

That angle wrote itself with the signing of Hall and Nash at the same time, hall and Nash both on the record to saying that

bicschoff was a one note creative, had one hot idea which he ran into the ground
 
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That angle wrote itself with the signing of Hall and Nash at the same time, hall and Nash both on the record to saying that

bicschoff was a one note creative, had one hot idea which he ran into the ground
  • Bischoff recruited them
  • Bischoff turned the biggest babyface heel
  • Bischoff signed the luchadores and cruiserweights and put em on tv
  • Bischoff pushed ddp
  • Bischoff turned savage heel and gave his career a second wind
  • Bischoff pushed GOLDBERG
  • Bischoff had BETTER swerves than russo
Hes just better than russo
 

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  • Bischoff recruited them
  • Bischoff turned the biggest babyface heel
  • Bischoff signed the luchadores and cruiserweights and put em on tv
  • Bischoff pushed ddp
  • Bischoff turned savage heel and gave his career a second wind
  • Bischoff pushed GOLDBERG
  • Bischoff had BETTER swerves than russo
Hes just better than russo

The booking of the Rock vs Mankind leading to the swerve at survivor series >>>>>>>>>>> anything Bischoff ever did. There was mad layers to that angle breh.
 

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  • Bischoff recruited them
  • Bischoff turned the biggest babyface heel
  • Bischoff signed the luchadores and cruiserweights and put em on tv
  • Bischoff pushed ddp
  • Bischoff turned savage heel and gave his career a second wind
  • Bischoff pushed GOLDBERG
  • Bischoff had BETTER swerves than russo
Hes just better than russo

Bischoff recruited them because he had unlimited bank account :mjlol: neither would've left if Vince could match the offer

Hoegan was the third wheel of NWO, was a corny cartoon heel, the opposite of what made NWO revolutionary, don't get it fukked up

Savage just didn't matter post WWE, harsh reality, no classics in WCW

Goldberg was definition of one note

GOATsso swerve game all time
 
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The booking of the Rock vs Mankind leading to the swerve at survivor series >>>>>>>>>>> anything Bischoff ever did. There was mad layers to that angle breh.
Youre listening to russos podcast obviously, and yes that was a good storyline but no where near as special as theyre saying. The nWo buildup from Hall debut to syxx debut was flawless. The goldberg push from hour 1 squashes to beating hogan at nitro was flawless. Not giving a fukk about jericho and giving him promo time to go crazy was perfectly accidental lol. Hennig turning his back on flair to become the nWo's midcard champion heel was pretty damn good too low key and there were layers to that.

DDP acting as a free agent needing nobody, self hi five, and being a wild card babyface was great. its actually what rollins should be doing now. Macho tapping back into the madness was great.

Russo's mistakes never get the attention bischoffs did, and bischoff gets none of the credit russo does. He was a better booker easily.
 
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