We need to have a discussion….. because this IS NOT SEXUAL ASSAULT…

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So he forced himself on her, kissed her with his tongue deep in her mouth, she pushed him away and you don’t think it’s sexual assault? :gucci:

Does he have to stick his penis in her twat for you to consider it as sexual assault?
He sat next to her and went in and kissed her… in that setting how is he breaking social norms…. He misread the situation, does that mean he is a sexual predator, foh
 

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He sat next to her and went in and kissed her… in that setting how is he breaking social norms…. He misread the situation, does that mean he is a sexual predator, foh
Right. Next time I sit next to a female colleague at work during lunch, I will try to slip my tongue down her throat and when she pushes me away I’ll just say I misread the situation. Dumbass
 
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do females really want that…. And I ask not knowing that answer…. but that’s certainly not what they’ve usually asked or demanded….


how many times have I heard a girl say “why didn’t he just kiss me”….this mind reading gettin dangerous

I’m on the same page, but we’re in a new society now, and can’t do the same things. I wouldn’t want to risk my career over a woman, especially one I’m just trying to smash. Perhaps work colleagues aren’t the best pool of potential partners.
 

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Consent has to happen first-he assumed her presence was enough to constitute consent (it wasn’t and is not).

She shouldn’t have been there in part for this very reason. We don’t have clear standards for consent but this behavior is frankly inappropriate on both ends, obviously his is more egregious and does involve harming/potentially harming someone.

i get consent and all that…. And clearly we gotta be more savvy how we get to this point…. but to claim you were sexually assaulted after the admission of misreading the situation, hard for me to say this guy is wrong. I’m not sayin that women should have to take unwanted advances…. They shouldn’t.

But in that setting…. under those circumstances idk……
sexual assault is a reach
 

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Still baffled women go back to a man’s living space or hotel and expect not get hit on, or him not to make a move

If I had an employee/report that did this, would I believe her/him? Yes.

Would I file a report/take a reasonable measure to address the Senator’s action? Yes.


Would I also terminate the employee? Yes- clear lack of judgment and a liability (why women/people do these things in professional settings/power dynamics truly stumps me.) Its shyt for your reputation (even if absolute nothing happened) and really just becomes an issue for you and the people who have to protect you. I don’t have the time or interest in you “innocently” being in such precarious situations.
 

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If I had an employee/report that did this, would I believe her/him? Yes.

Would I file a report/take a reasonable measure to address the Senator’s action? Yes.


Would I also terminate the employee? Yes- clear lack of judgment and a liability (why women do these things in professional settings/power dynamics truly stumps me.) Its shyt for your reputation (even if absolute nothing happened) and really just becomes an issue for you and the people who have to protect you. I don’t have the time or interest in you “innocently” being in such precarious situations.

you know what…. I don’t even have an issue with her innocently being there…. What I don’t like is the lack of understanding for him being human and just making an honest mistake.

if a woman in that same situation kisses a man, and he says oh I’m not with that…. I just don’t see him feeling like he was sexually assaulted
 

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It is sexual harassment. Fits the definition of an unwanted advance.
The issue with this topic is that it was ignored for so long that people overreach with the labels-no it’s not assault especially after he accepted her no.


However, (I will never say anyone’s dress or actions result in or should allow someone permission to touch)-why are you going to an adult man’s apartment?

Y’all “best/good friends” huh :mjlol:

it’s not sexual harassment. He misread her intentions
 
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