We need to have a discussion….. because this IS NOT SEXUAL ASSAULT…

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you know what…. I don’t even have an issue with her innocently being there…. What I don’t like is the lack of understanding for him being human and just making an honest mistake.

if a woman in that same situation kisses a man, and he says oh I’m not with that…. I just don’t see him feeling like he was sexually assaulted

Remove the genders and orientations, both actions are equivalent. First off, a Senator should not be hitting on/touching on another one’s aide. She shouldn’t have been invited to his place, she shouldn’t have accepted. Power difference. When these stories come out, especially with multiple victims coming forward we know the specs of why it’s wholly inappropriate and easily creeps into predator territory because they’re rarely the only one.
 

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Remove the genders and orientations, both actions are equivalent. First off, a Senator should not be hitting on/touching on another one’s aide. She shouldn’t have been invited to his place solo, she shouldn’t have accepted. Power difference. When these stories come out we know the specs of why it’s wholly inappropriate and easily creeps into predator territory because they’re rarely the only or first one.
As far as the elements involved In their linking up…. I agree they are both way out of bounds…. But that’s not my issue here, if we are talking about that then they are both out of line like you said. But I am talkin about simply the interaction between man and woman that has been a norm for years being rewritten in real time by women but on an as needed basis…. And that is my problem.

If the advance is wanted she marries the guy maybe, but if it isn’t wanted it’s sexual assault… that is a problem to me, especially when the unwanted advance apologizes for the advance
 

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She’s clearly trying to sell a book because if that’s assault, every straight dude above a certain age is guilty of trying to kiss a girl without asking at some point in his life.

She’s trying to sell a book like I said because “come up stairs for coffee/drinks” after a night out is a clearly and widely understood euphemism for sex.
 

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She’s clearly trying to sell a book because if that’s assault, every straight dude above a certain age is guilty of trying to kiss a girl without asking at some point in his life.

She’s trying to sell a book like I said because “come up stairs for coffee/drinks” after a night out is a clearly and widely understood euphemism for sex.

At this point we are all sexual predators ….. the way the most extreme feminists want to see us anyway….. the desire for leverage between men and women is taking a dangerous turn
 

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Consent has to happen first-he assumed her presence was enough to constitute consent (it wasn’t and is not).

She shouldn’t have been there in part for this very reason. We don’t have clear standards for consent but this behavior is frankly inappropriate on both ends, obviously his is more egregious and does involve harming/potentially harming someone.

:gucci:

You sound like HR brochure. This is real life with real human interacting in real time where you assume a grown human has enough knowledge of contextual clues not to call misreading of signs, assault.

You dudes drank the entire jug of Kool-Aid.
 

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At this point we are all sexual predators ….. the way the most extreme feminists want to see us anyway….. the desire for leverage between men and women is taking a dangerous turn
If you are inviting women (or men) in subordinate positions from your career to your place solo and touching them, yes you are.

Let’s not gas it otherwise, “I coulda been R Kelly/must be a predator” shouldn’t be a thing nor should this circumstance be massively relatable.
 

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So every girl you’ve dated you asked to kiss them first?
Were the two of them dating at the time? Nikka, are you slow? :gucci:

If I’m on a date with a girl where we both know it’s a date, of course I’ll try and kiss her.
 

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You sound like HR brochure. This is real life with real human interacting in real time where you assume a grown human has enough knowledge of contextual clues not to call misreading of signs, assault.

You dudes drank the entire jug of Kool-Aid.
People are free to go outside of their industry and/or on dating apps IG etc hell even sugar daddy sites.

The HR dept in part exists for a reason.

Was this a date now? Or her “innocently” going “for coffee” to a man’s apartment/lodging?
 

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People are free to go outside of their industry and/or on dating apps IG etc hell even sugar daddy sites.

The HR dept in part exists for a reason.

Was this a date now? Or her “innocently” going “for coffee” to a man’s apartment/lodging?

Cut the shyt. The self righteousness from the woke crowd is nauseating sometimes.

I know y’all mean well, but cut the shyt.
 
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