We need to reeavaluate Kevin Durant

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cosign, i rate those titles (minus the curry one) over ANY of those superteam titles from bron and KD. ill sit back with popcorn watching bron and kd stans argue semantics though :feedme:
LeBron’s 2012 Finals run was one of the more difficult ones in history.

Bosh was relegated to 14 games and started 10 and was role player status.

People need to start analyzing basketball and what really happened and stop going off names and narratives.
 

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That's already been explained. Bro, the fukking coach for Cleveland literally said the goal was to take the ball out of Steph's hands. Rewatch analysis vids on YouTube. Many plays they'd let Durant have single coverage (or even wide open) to focus on Curry. Of course KD was gonna stuff the stat sheet when he wasn't drawing most of the defensive attention.

And despite that, Curry's numbers where still on par with his.
thats on the ty lue. ty lue employing a dumb ass strategy doesnt mean shyt as far as im concerned when it comes to ranking kd's play. it isnt like kd performed at a level unsual for him, he did this for an entire season in okc and won mvp off it so miss with this lazy ass argument
 

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Steph had a higher peak than Durant, that’s the basis for the placement. When they were on the same team Steph faced the brunt of the defensive attention. The Cavs threw the kitchen sink at him on and off ball all four years. I think the stat was for one of the Finals that KD faced two double teams to Steph’s 40+. KD was seeing single coverage in isos, he was walking up the floor and shooting threes, he was getting open runway dunks in transition because the Cavs was more worried about Steph.

Also, when KD and Steph faced off it was Steph who got the better of him. All I remember is the 40 foot game-winner in the regular season and the 3-1 comeback. Steph is a higher impact player he’s more of a floor raiser. The gap between them All-Time for me isn’t large. I had Durant over Steph for a long time. They are both unanimously top 15-20 at this point and can be argued higher.

Also, no it wasn’t just that game 6 that’s just the biggest example. These are the series that I’m referring to.
2010 NBA Western Conference First Round - Thunder vs. Lakers | Basketball-Reference.com

2011 NBA Western Conference Finals - Thunder vs. Mavericks | Basketball-Reference.com

2013 NBA Western Conference Semifinals - Grizzlies vs. Thunder | Basketball-Reference.com

2014 NBA Western Conference Finals - Thunder vs. Spurs | Basketball-Reference.com

2016 NBA Western Conference Finals - Thunder vs. Warriors | Basketball-Reference.com

In these series he had mid-series shooting slumps (Kevin’s three ball dips to 35% in the playoffs for his career) this is what led to the Mr. Unreliable headline that angered him and added fuel to him leaving.

These are the series and moments I was talking about that were marked by my turn/your turn hero ball with Russy (lack of leadership), lost ball TO’s (high dribble, long sweeping crossover, some trouble navigating ball screens downhill), bad passes (overambitious in tight windows, soft limp wrist passes, trouble passing out hard traps), volume shooting (mid series shooting slumps, relying on the J instead of applying rim pressure). These are just tendencies I personally observed down the stretch of games and as series extended.

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'Mr. Unreliable' Durant headline causes stir


The Oklahoman apologizes for calling Thunder's Kevin Durant 'Mr. Unreliable' | Sports Illustrated
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I’m holding him to a standard of Jordan and LeBron who had more impact outside of scoring than Kevin. But who also elevated their scoring at pivotal moments and had signature All-Time performances. Even in losing efforts they were able to push series further than they should have.
KD signature playoff moments came against Lebron in 2017(4-1) and 2018(4-0) finals. I don’t think KD is historically better than Bron but why does he trigger y’all so much?
 

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Why do you think an honest critique of KD’s career (one of my favorite players) is me being triggered?
Give me a rundown on Lebron’s playoff failures since he is your favorite player. This is a challenge
 

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Give me a rundown on Lebron’s playoff failures since he is your favorite player. This is a challenge
It sound to me like you the one feeling a way.

LeBron’s playoff failures are simple he’s a streaky outside shooter and struggled against defenses that zone in on him with help defenders, rotate the passing lanes, play him physical at the basket, and sag off his jumper.

It’s a strategy that works if LeBron’s teammates aren’t hitting threes and if LeBron himself is on a cold streak from the outside.

Anyone can see this in the ‘07 Finals, ‘10 ECSF, ‘11 Finals.
 

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Crazy how a few years back nobody wanted to give the Dubs any credit for that ‘15 chip.
 

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It sound to me like you the one feeling a way.

LeBron’s playoff failures are simple he’s a streaky outside shooter and struggled against defenses that zone in on him with help defenders, rotate the passing lanes, play him physical at the basket, and sag off his jumper.

It’s a strategy that works if LeBron’s teammates aren’t hitting threes and if LeBron himself is on a cold streak from the outside.

Anyone can see this in the ‘07 Finals, ‘10 ECSF, ‘11 Finals.
Just wanted to see if you would do it but:salute:
 

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So Draymond didn’t beg him and KD ran to the Dubs? Is that the new narrative stanley? Outside of the Westbrick sabotage and Klay out of body experience game, the series would’ve been over but that’s another story. Cleveland gave the 73-9 Warriors the most embarrassing loss of their careers in the same season and they ran to get KD when he announced his plans to leave the Thunder. Foh :scust:

you stupid fukk, durant contributed to that loss too with the most bytchmade game 6 ever.

Durant ran to them why do you think they were all mad at him when he was contemplating leaving Oakland? Why do you think Draymond had the audacity to scream on him (i.e say what the whole team was thnking) Because the Warriors knew he ran to them. They figured he shoulda been grateful for them saving his career.
 

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you stupid fukk, durant contributed to that loss too with the most bytchmade game 6 ever.

Durant ran to them why do you think they were all mad at him when he was contemplating leaving Oakland? Why do you think Draymond had the audacity to scream on him (i.e say what the whole team was thnking) Because the Warriors knew he ran to them. They figured he shoulda been grateful for them saving his career.
Grateful for what? It was a mutually beneficial relationship. And now he’s about to keep stacking without them
 
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