We Old Heads are the same as '85 Old Heads. "Rap is Crap"

[Larry Lambo]

@rapbeats

I will give you that RZA and Organized Noize were putting out some sick beats. But I still think on average today's beats sound better, and seem to have more elements to them. Lex Luger, Mike Will Made It, JUSTICE League and many others have taken it up a notch. I look back at artists that I was infatuated with back in the day such as Boot Camp Clik, ATCQ, Redman, etc. and although I still love their songs, the beats seem so basic now.

 

[Farrinto]

I don't see how anyone could say that lyricism hasn't regressed. A lot of these mainstream rappers are ass and they know it too.

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

what did the 90s have?

Grunge, gangsta rap, grimy ny rap, trip hop, house, drum and bass, alternative rock. I'm sure I'm missing a bunch too

 

[PoPimp84]

Nikkas get old and get disgruntled when they realize Hip Hop doesn't represent their ideologies, fashion, etc. anymore. It's like they don't acknowledge the fact that the world doesn't revolve around them and their generation. I hope I don't grow up to become one of you flabby n agitated nikkas

Don't leave the bolded up to chance then, off yourself before the next gen of trash becomes hot

 

[The War Report]

It's not even that because there's some new shyt that's good but there's a lot garbage in between. I'm sick and tired of this trap era we're in.

 

[The War Report]

Rock as a genre for example..I think we look back and it was better in the 90s than the 80s (rap too imo)

Rock was not better in the 90's than 80's. And there's some ppl that held 80's hip hop very dearly, like your uncle.

 

[mbewane]

I gotta disagree breh.

The problem is your parents....I don't know them but let's say they were listening to Stevie Wonder, or Earth, Wind & Fire.

There is a significant generation gap because they're hearing rap, a completely new genre of music.

The problem nowadays is kids are trying to dictate what is good in a genre that is damn near 40 years old. It's not their generation's music....they have no historic ties to it. In any other era they would've came up with their own shyt....like we did....or your parent's generation....but this generation didn't.

So nah....it's not like your parents shytting on rap. It's like, you trying to school your parents on the music they grew up on.

Fred.

Grunge, which is a sub genre of rock, that killed a previous sub genre of rock, hair bands. Also, hip-hop.

For the record when I say "a generation's music" I mean what their generation created and/or popularized as their own.

This generation has done neither for rap.

Lastly, the problem (?) with rap is it never died. Look at every previous genre I mentioned....they're all gone (doo wop, disco) or a shadow of their former selves (metal). That made way for the next generation to create something new.

Hip-hop exploded from the 80's into the 90's....and then that's it. I don't even mean quality-wise it fell off, that's another topic entirely.

I mean it's damn near impossible to reinvent the wheel after 40 years. Which is why we got cases like "the Migos flow" which is just Lord Infamous. Or "drill rap" which is just gangsta rap with a new name.

Fred.

 

[osama bin fly]

Coli posters having an epiphany realizing they flabbynsick

 

[Ghost Utmost]

For us that want them to sound like we think they should sound:

That's the point I'm making. We say "your lyrics must be at this level" They say "O rly?" and make shyt like the Nay Nay.. with pretty much no lyrics. We say "This keyboard beat shyt is garbage" They then make a beat in 90 seconds using only one finger to play the notes.

We rage on and they just shrug.

 

[LandryFieldsDad]

Rock was not better in the 90's than 80's. And there's some ppl that held 80's hip hop very dearly, like your uncle.

Absolutely it was.
Lot of 80s rock like hair metal was very disposable

 

[rapbeats]

Future is older than t-Pain

he might be. i aint checking for the man's birth date. my point was. before FUTURE the ARTIST was ever even thought up. Tpain was making hits using and abusing AUTOTUNE. IT AINT NEW is my point. care to correct anything else?

 

[rapbeats]

@rapbeats

I will give you that RZA and Organized Noize were putting out some sick beats. But I still think on average today's beats sound better, and seem to have more elements to them. Lex Luger, Mike Will Made It, JUSTICE League and many others have taken it up a notch. I look back at artists that I was infatuated with back in the day such as Boot Camp Clik, ATCQ, Redman, etc. and although I still love their songs, the beats seem so basic now.

yes they seem basic NOW. of course they do. these beats of today will SEEM basic in 2025. Rakim's raps are basic now but when he dropped they were ground breaking and revolutionary.

Its called understanding the context of the content. what did you think when you heard those songs when you first heard them. were they basic to you then? for instance, those old school first 2 albums .. that short did. those beats were SUPPPPPER simple to me even back then as a little kid sneaking and listening to short dawg. But other artists had music that sounded different and it was not easy to duplicate or mimic.

I like justice league. granted i'm some what bored with their style now. But yes i've heard that before too. It's called Dr. Dre ... use session musicians to replay samples and then give the loop your own little twist. it makes the music sound extra crisp and clean since its real instrumentation and not a sample from an old song. like i said, there are some that are making some nice beats. but for the most part what you hear blaring out of this gen's cars and headphones are suspect bootleg southern trap beats.

and hold up. tribe's Midnight marauders was next level when it dropped. nothing sounded like that at all.

 

[West Coast Avenger]

I'm old and I listen to the hip hop of today....And I like it........not so much for the lyricism though....mostly the production.....

 

[Heelish]

Not true. I was in high school with 99% of rap. Little Wayne and Young Jeezy were huge when I was a junior.

 

[rapbeats]

For us that want them to sound like we think they should sound:

That's the point I'm making. We say "your lyrics must be at this level" They say "O rly?" and make shyt like the Nay Nay.. with pretty much no lyrics. We say "This keyboard beat shyt is garbage" They then make a beat in 90 seconds using only one finger to play the notes.

We rage on and they just shrug.

nope. still aint buying it. There's a difference between TRASH and a lack of talent vs old heads wishing you sounded like and did it like their old school artists did it.

I personally dont want to hear that old boom bap sound anymore. its nice from time to time on a song or two. but thats it. i dont want to hear that old 8 ball and mjg sound anymore. that was hot for then. time to start a new. I dont want to hear old simplistic too short beats in 2015. that was hot in the 80's.

i'm looking for the next outkast. i'm looking for the next pac, next snoop, next jigga, next nas. next biggie, next redman, etc. not sounding like these dudes. but with that top level of TALENT in the artform called RAP. These dudes CANT RAP.

They are allowing your homeboy that use to get drunk and fake freestyle at the house, to be a top rapper in today's music. thats pathetic. that was cute for the house party or while yall were drinking and smoking. but its not cute when these guys are supposed to be PROfessionals doing it for a living with people paying to buy their concert tickets, and paying for songs. These dudes aint PROS. they are amateurs at rap at best. I dont want to hear an amateur rap. you SUCK at that level. get at me when you get to a PRO level of talent or STOP RAPPING.