‘We Should Be Further,’ Dominicans Say

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I know a few blk dominicans w/ bread
whats the magic word?. "few"

You always have a few people in every group who are doing well but those are the exceptions to the rule. Even when blacks were in bad times, the first female millionaire was a black women, madame cj walker.
 

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@beanz Yes, that is a good thing but that is still a high number for a small group. Then you need to ask yourself which ones are not in poverty?. The white ones, the ones who live with the family,etc?. Nobody is knocking yall but, I just see it as a lot o f foreigners are just ok but they give this attitude like they made big strides. Its good to come from a fukked up place and make your life better here but, once here you cant keep making the excuse of where you're from being fukked up and you are doing good because now you are in another race and I see too many latins who arent doing good, just better then where they came from. Cubans are the only ones who are doing good as a whole, and we know why. Yes its that evil word, RACE. They knew how to blend in and bring the money back to their community and keep in there. The only thing is, the community is in florida so they are stuck to one place, which can be a good and a bad depending on how you see it and how you view society because it can easily be torn apart by some idiots and now they have no community just like what racists did to blacks with places such as black wallstreet rosweood, and wilmington,n.c.

You have your mind set on what you want to believe but I felt you need to hear another side that you are either ignoring or just dont know about.

:wtf: so only white dominicans are doing good? is that what u are telling me?

the most succesful dominicans in my family are all dark skinned dude. my dad's father probably was the least successful and he looks like he is from spain. my mothers father is blacker than wesley snipes and is retired in DR living good. my wife's uncle is black and he probably the richest dude i know, all from legitimate biz in jersey. i can think of at least 15 dark skinned dominicans that are either family or friends of the fam that are living good. brehs own homes and businesses in jersey.

you basically saying africans dont come here and do their thing. where i live in the bronx i see african businesses up and down jerome ave and boston road.

wtf man seriously? yea, it may be harder for blacks than it is for whites, but its not impossible.
 

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whats the magic word?. "few"

You always have a few people in every group who are doing well but those are the exceptions to the rule. Even when blacks were in bad times, the first female millionaire was a black women, madame cj walker.

:patrice: do u see where your argument falls apart tho? u just showed me a stat that 26.3% of dominicans are living below poverty. yet 85% of dominicans are either black or mixed. there are very few white dominicans. but 73.7% are living good..so...yea..
 

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:wtf: so only white dominicans are doing good? is that what u are telling me?

the most succesful dominicans in my family are all dark skinned dude. my dad's father probably was the least successful and he looks like he is from spain. my mothers father is blacker than wesley snipes and is retired in DR living good. my wife's uncle is black and he probably the richest dude i know, all from legitimate biz in jersey. i can think of at least 15 dark skinned dominicans that are either family or friends of the fam that are living good. brehs own homes and businesses in jersey.

you basically saying africans dont come here and do their thing. where i live in the bronx i see african businesses up and down jerome ave and boston road.

wtf man seriously? yea, it may be harder for blacks than it is for whites, but its not impossible.
You made a whole post based on bad reading!. I asked which ones were doing good and gave examples, it wasn't just white!. This tells me you have your mind made up and just arguing to do it. If you have traveled the country, you will see for yourself there are too many latins that are doing ok. I say ok because a lot of them dont live on their own, they live with family and this is how a lot of the poverty is offest, Once you look at everything on a personal level its not that great as it should be. You name business's like that means they are not broke. I know for a fact you can own a business and still be struggling, you just have something to sell if need be and can do something with. Plus you are naming the bronx, damn near everyone up there is from a foreign land so I hope they own some of those business's. Think what you want man but, you are lacking the truth as a whole.
 

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:patrice: do u see where your argument falls apart tho? u just showed me a stat that 26.3% of dominicans are living below poverty. yet 85% of dominicans are either black or mixed. there are very few white dominicans. but 73.7% are living good..so...yea..
Just because you are not below the poverty level does not mean you are good!. How old are you?. Do you know what poverty means?. The rest can be in middle class and depending on where they live can still be hard on them. They may be considered middle class based on how many people are working in the house but they are not what others may call middle class if the others live by themselves or just have two working people in the house.

Or the dominicans above the poverty level may just be low income, and that is still struggling.

You have this idea that since most aren't at poverty level they are doing good when that may not be the case. Poverty is the lowest you can go after being homeless, which is why that 26% is a high number.
 
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You made a whole post based on bad reading!. I asked which ones were doing good and gave examples, it wasn't just white!. This tells me you have your mind made up and just arguing to do it. If you have traveled the country, you will see for yourself there are too many latins that are doing ok. I say ok because a lot of them dont live on their own, they live with family and this is how a lot of the poverty is offest, Once you look at everything on a personal level its not that great as it should be. You name business's like that means they are not broke. I know for a fact you can own a business and still be struggling, you just have something to sell if need be and can do something with. Plus you are naming the bronx, damn near everyone up there is from a foreign land so I hope they own some of those business's. Think what you want man but, you are lacking the truth as a whole.

Just because you are not below the poverty level does not mean you are good!. How old are you?. Do you know what poverty means?. The rest can be in middle class and depending on where they live can still be hard on them.

:snoop: you are speaking from the outside. you dont get it. poverty has different meanings to immigrants from 3rd world countries. our priorities are to make enough money to feed our families back home. excuse us for not joining u in pointing fingers at white people. we dont give a fukk. white supremacy or not, we come here and save lives with whatever we make. poverty and struggles to us means starving for 3 days and dying of disease cause u cant afford the doctor. poverty and struggles to ya means not being able to pay your cable bill and getting harassed by cops. the poorest here still get food stamps and medicaid. yea the housing sucks and they have to live in crime ridden areas, but the poorest in DR or mexico or kenya or somalia, they fukking DIE. they bury their fukking children who are nothing but skin n bones.

so please PLEASE forgive us for not identifying with YOUR PO' WIDDLE STWUGGLES.

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@beanz you are a clown for real.

What the hell does being in poverty in the U.S.A., have to do with poverty in the d.r.?. If your child is struggling here and just gets the basic needs such as food, clothing, and shelter, while other people around him get that plus other things, he could care less how the people in d.r. are doing if he is still struggling in a new land. I know this because I hung out with dominicans in washington heights who HUSTLED DRUGS!. They wouldnt be selling drugs if all they wanted was to have the basic needs, and send some money back home!. That area was known for drugs going way back to the 80's. They wanted to live the good life like a lot of Americans.

You are trying to give a sob story like some of us dont know any better, and you are making dominicans look like low class people who are happy with crumbs. GTFOH with that bullshyt, they want the good life just like the rest of us americans. They want police to treat them with respect. They want their landlords to not treat their buildings like a shack back home.

You are a poor representation of them and making them look bad because you are ignorant. I bet in real life they don't even hang with your ass, at least the ones who know whats up.
 

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@beanz you are a clown for real.

What the hell does being in poverty in the U.S.A., have to do with poverty in the d.r.?. If your child is struggling here and just gets the basic needs such as food, clothing, and shelter, while other people around him get that plus other things, he could care less how the people in d.r. are doing if he is still struggling in a new land. I know this because I hung out with dominicans in washington heights who HUSTLED DRUGS!. They wouldnt be selling drugs if all they wanted was to have the basic needs, and send some money back home!. That area was known for drugs going way back to the 80's. They wanted to live the good life like a lot of Americans.

You are trying to give a sob story like some of us dont know any better, and you are making dominicans look like low class people who are happy with crumbs. GTFOH with that bullshyt, they want the good life just like the rest of us americans. They want police to treat them with respect. They want their landlords to not treat their buildings like a shack back home.

You are a poor representation of them and making them look bad because you are ignorant. I bet in real life they don't even hang with your ass, at least the ones who know whats up.

I give up. shyt went over your head. Think what u want :manny:.
 

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I just want to say, the basic needs being fulfilled are enough to springboard us into great things. We have rapidly moved up. What does poverty in DR and poverty in the US have to do with each other? If u knew anything about us, and knew the connection we feel to our fam back home, u would knowbwhat I'm talking about. You can't see what I'm saying because u don't know what being an immigrant is like.
 

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:manny: I don't care what ya think ya obviously biased militant clowns. If our image is that of prostitution is because it's cheap to go to dr right now cause our tourism industry is poppin. All 3rd world countries havehuge pprostitution industries and we just the popular ones at the moment.

Maybe immigrants' problems with black americans is all the crying and the whining. Dudes come here seriously broke, not a word of English, no family, dirty old rags on their backs yet they come here and do everything in their power to pull their families out of the gutter, despite their skin tone. This same white boogy man that keeps pulling the carpet out from under ya, somehow let's us rock. So immigrants feel a certain type of way about black americans. I'm terribly sorry that it hurts ya feelings, but it is what it is.

Personally, I was raised in Harlem and sympathize and feel connected to blacks because I was raised here andthe majority of my ffriends have been black. So I have always been on ya side and always agree with the majority of what ya say when it comes to white supremacy, but when ya sit here and talk bad about MY community for doing the best we can without always looking for the white boogy man, then fukk that. Not bytching about white people and wearing dashikis doesn't make us c00ns. Our priorities are different and ya need to accept it and fix ya own fukking problems.
The only reason why your worthless, irrelevant people are able to even exist in this nation is because of the contributions of black Americans. LOL you dusty Latinos are JEALOUS of the achievements of black Americans and your jealousy manifests itself in hatred. Your people are your country are IRRELEVANT. And you have some nerve talking the problems of black America as if Dominicans are doing big things lmao.
 

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You know what, Dominicans, like other immigrant groups from around the world with African ancestry or directly from Africa, don't want to be associated with black americans. The reasons may be wrong and ignorant, but it is what it is. "black" is the term used mostly for African American. So black Dominicans don't want to be called black. It does not mean we our denying our African roots.

I'm sorry that you over sensitive militants feel some type of way about that, but suck it up and work on fixing your image to the world. Don't be out there supporting drill rap and buying Lil boosie cds and then getting mad at other members of the African diaspora for not wanting to associate themselves with AAs.

That's my last post on the subject. It is what it is. If you don't like it, change it.

:manny:

To the bolded, outside a few lost/confused aa's the feelings is mutual. Most non aa blacks bring nothing or little to the table. Dudes from 2/3rd world countries telling us to improve our image to the world

Black imo means of or related to American slavery. I don't even consider Africans and caribbeans to be "black":yeshrug:
 
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@beanz is a perfect example of why Black Americans in Congress need to work with REPUBLICANS on immigration.

It's time for us to stop being liberal idealist, and be more practical and self-focused when it comes to this issue.

The Democrats will have people like him flooding the country. Unacceptable.

The short term economic benefits that America receives now from immigrants is going to be extremely costly, especially for AA's, in the future.
 

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the insecurity you guys have is ridiculous. it cant POSSIBLY be because people feel rangel is a crook and should have retired 20 years ago. it cant POSSIBLY be because espaillat just has political ambition and feels he can do a better job than that old thief. NOOOO. it HAS to be because dominicans are c00ns and want nothing more than to get black people out of office.

ignore the fact that Rangel has dominicans backing him over espaillat and nevermind the fact that rangel is censored in congress because of shady dealings

it just HAS to be racism


:mjlol: what a bunch of clowns u guys are turning into man

Some random Dominican candidate with no merit or ability, as evidenced by the article, is somehow going to better than Rangel. Once Dominicans have office they'll never relinquish it. Nobody needs yall in the Congress or to hold office at all so you can give illegal favors your DR buddies :pacspit:
 
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