We still pretending the Warriors didn't make a mistake drafting Wiseman over Lamelo or nah

[Wargames]

Bad trade for both teams

If I’m DC, I make GS put their money where their mouth is. You hate Poole, you hate Kuminga, Aight give em up. I want Poole, Kuminga, and Moody. They all trash right ? Wizards get younger (and separately trade Beal and Kuzma ). And GS gets rid of the apparent dead weight.

GS: Steph, Klay, Wiggins, Zingis, Looney

Wizards new core: Poole, Moody, (Amen Thompson), Kuminga, Advija + whatever you get for Beal

Win, win

That’s not horrible. The only issue is I still think they want to keep Draymond.

 

[klientel]

That was the main talking point for coping with not taking LaMelo. That, and the warriors didnt like Lavar Ball. Seeing as how Wiseman was stastically the worst impact player in the league and still is, and Lavar hasn't really said much since LaMelo was drafted, the whole situation is a complete L for the Warriors. Drafting a G-League player with the 2nd overall pick, then salary dumping him, instead of drafting the future ROY and All-Star is a huge mistake. Unfathomably bad draft management. The kinda shyt that would normally get a GM fired.

Poole being awful and on top of that being paid like a good player really stings.

Imagine LaMelo running point FOR REAL and Steph being able to consistently play off ball and look for his shot.

No more of Draymond standing at the top of the key playing “point guard”. Which is basically him trying his hardest to get rid of the ball ASAP while nobody guards him. If he does anything besides kick it to the guy cutting it’s a likely turnover. Move him to the second unit with Wiggins and have the best bench in the league.

But they choose another route

 

[Unbothered]

The Warriors aren't good at developing talent as much as people say they are , Steph, Klay, and Dray all improved at their own pace and not because of a system put in place.

Injuries aside Wiseman never really had a chance to develop properly because Golden State is all about winning now and they expect their players to contribute right out the gate.

They expected Wiseman to be a dominant force the moment he stepped on the court and when they realize that wasn't going to happen they pretty much gave up on him Looney wasn't really supposed to still be a main piece of Golden State's rotation but because of the Wiseman experiment failing they had no choice.

If the Warriors drafted LaMelo, they likely would've hinder his growth because I doubt he'd be starting at PG or SG right now if he was a Dub.

 

[x-factor7]

@tremonthustler1 is the only person I’ve seen on and here defending the Pistons talking Darko over Carmelo. Not surprising Wiseman over Melo is being defended.

It’s kind of eerie how both those picks are very similar. Championship teams that caught a big break with a #2 pick that could’ve extended their run, decided to pick a project Center over the more proven player, but ends up disastrous and closing the window instead of continuing the run.

 

[tremonthustler1]

@tremonthustler1 is the only person I’ve seen on and here defending the Pistons talking Darko over Carmelo. Not surprising Wiseman over Melo is being defended.

It’s kind of eerie how both those picks are very similar. Championship teams that caught a big break with a #2 pick that could’ve extended their run, decided to pick a project Center over the more proven player, but ends up disastrous and closing the window instead of continuing the run.

If Larry Brown hasn't proven to you that not taking Melo was the best thing for Melo, I can't help you.

and for the record, they made the ECF every year until 2008-09. You wanted to save Melo for 2009 when he was planning on dipping to NY anyway?

 

[Michael's Black Son]

One of the worst draft decisions in modern NBA history. This was such an obvious pick….the NBA gods literally gifted them a star who is a perfect fit for them.

And they said nah give me the dude who can’t play more than 20 games a season without literally falling apart.

Yup. Melo has leveled up in literally every situation he’s been in: high school, senior year of high school, NBL and now in Charlotte making them somewhat watchable again. This version of the Warriors are done after this series so they might as well start the rebuild now instead of stick with the old guard until they are on their last legs.

 

[klientel]

The Warriors aren't good at developing talent as much as people say they are , Steph, Klay, and Dray all improved at their own pace and not because of a system put in place.

Injuries aside Wiseman never really had a chance to develop properly because Golden State is all about winning now and they expect their players to contribute right out the gate.

They expected Wiseman to be a dominant force the moment he stepped on the court and when they realize that wasn't going to happen they pretty much gave up on him Looney wasn't really supposed to still be a main piece of Golden State's rotation but because of the Wiseman experiment failing they had no choice.

If the Warriors drafted LaMelo, they likely would've hinder his growth because I doubt he'd be starting at PG or SG right now if he was a Dub.

You sound crazy as hell. Melo’s rookie year the warriors had Kelly Oubre starting and Klay missed the entire season and most of the next. But you think LaMelo fukking Ball would be coming off the bench?

If they drafted him he would be their unquestioned PG right now and Steph would be murdering teams off ball. The Warriors offense and playing with Steph(who he modeled his game after) would have been a dream scenario for him.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

I’m

 

[42 Monks]

I'm just happy that PJ slander has been officially recognized and accepted without LaMelo, he's just Eduardo Najera with a Bumble account

 

[O.T.I.S.]

You sound crazy as hell. Melo’s rookie year the warriors had Kelly Oubre starting and Klay missed the entire season and most of the next. But you think LaMelo fukking Ball would be coming off the bench?

If they drafted him he would be their unquestioned PG right now and Steph would be murdering teams off ball. The Warriors offense and playing with Steph(who he modeled his game after) would have been a dream scenario for him.

They would have definitely had him come off the bench in significant minutes but it would’ve been a much easier transition to have him start sooner than the shyt the Hornets head coach did.

Maybe they would have started him though. Golden State is a very unpredictable team and open to many options.

 

[Unbothered]

You sound crazy as hell. Melo’s rookie year the warriors had Kelly Oubre starting and Klay missed the entire season and most of the next. But you think LaMelo fukking Ball would be coming off the bench?

If they drafted him he would be their unquestioned PG right now and Steph would be murdering teams off ball. The Warriors offense and playing with Steph(who he modeled his game after) would have been a dream scenario for him.

It wouldn't have worked in that scenario .

LaMelo was not destined to be a role player. He's meant to be THE guy leading a team, not the guy helping THE guy (Steph) to succeed. LaMelo would not have been a starter with Klay returning, he would be what Jordan Poole is but a better 3rd option cause that's all he would've been on their roster.

He would not be the guy he is in Charlotte if drafted by Golden State . Besides the Dubs throughout this dynasty have never really had an elite (or good/great) center outside of Andrew Bogut and I guess Looney but he was never supposed to last this long as a part of their rotation/future. Cousins, maybe but, he never made much of an impact during his stint there because of Injuries. The Warriors made the right move drafting Wiseman but they're expectations of what they needed from him right out the gate (18/20pts and 10 boards type of player) was too much to ask.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

I’m

Yep, I was just thinking this earlier too

Warriors are going to have to part ways with this dude this summer. I’m not even sure they will get much back by trading him either, his stock is tanking just like his game.

His last 5 performances and that wild ass shot he took in the end of one of the earlier games exposed this man.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

It wouldn't have worked in that scenario .

LaMelo was not destined to be a role player. He's meant to be THE guy leading a team, not the guy helping THE guy (Steph) to succeed. LaMelo would not have been a starter with Klay returning, he would be what Jordan Poole is but a better 3rd option cause that's all he would've been on their roster.

He would not be the guy he is in Charlotte if drafted by Golden State . Besides the Dubs throughout this dynasty have never really had an elite (or good/great) center outside of Andrew Bogut and I guess Looney but he was never supposed to last this long as a part of their rotation/future. Cousins, maybe but, he never made much of an impact during his stint there because of Injuries. The Warriors made the right move drafting Wiseman but they're expectations of what they needed from him right out the gate (18/20pts and 10 boards type of player) was too much to ask.

I believe you’re completely wrong

Being “The Guy” for him does not being the leading scorer. He played his best ball with people similar to his brothers… high IQ and can pass.

He doesn’t even need to dominate the ball to be effective, he just should especially in Charlotte because they don’t have the same IQ he has with the ball.

He would’ve easily shined playing in GS.. no reason to force it. It would’ve naturally happened with his style of play same as it did all the way back to Chino Hills.

And look at Poole.. not nearly as good and he shined enough to at least get paid.

LaMelo wouldn’t need to be the guy at first, he could just hoop until he naturally does because GS would’ve definitely gave him the keys.. they will give it to him now. He is everything Lonzo Should’ve been.

 

[Unbothered]

I believe you’re completely wrong

Being “The Guy” for him does not being the leading scorer. He played his best ball with people similar to his brothers… high IQ and can pass.

He doesn’t even need to dominate the ball to be effective, he just should especially in Charlotte because they don’t have the same IQ he has with the ball.

He would’ve easily shined playing in GS.. no reason to force it. It would’ve naturally happened with his style of play same as it did all the way back to Chino Hills.

And look at Poole.. not nearly as good and he shined enough to at least get paid.

LaMelo wouldn’t need to be the guy at first, he could just hoop until he naturally does because GS would’ve definitely gave him the keys.. they will give it to him now. He is everything Lonzo Should’ve been.

It wouldn't have worked.

The Warriors didn't need him because they have Steph and until he retires nobody else will be given the keys, LaMelo likely would've been used in a trade down the line before he could even prosper in a role. Similar to how people thought GS would trade the #2 pick but instead kept it. The Warriors drafted the right player that they needed but their expectations were overwhelming and that's partially the reason why Wiseman never worked, aside from injuries.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

It wouldn't have worked.

The Warriors didn't need him because they have Steph and until he retires nobody else will be given the keys, LaMelo likely would've been used in a trade down the line before he could even prosper in a role. Similar to how people thought GS would trade the #2 pick but instead kept it. The Warriors drafted the right player that they needed but their expectations were overwhelming and that's partially the reason why Wiseman never worked, aside from injuries.

Ok breh