Westbrook for mvp

[KOBE]

Act like FG% and efficiency isn't a thing, brehs.

Think AI is better than Wade despite being worse in almost every statistical category, having less success, and being worse defebsively.

You mad that stats disagree with you and you don't know basketball.

Dumbass

act like context isn't a thing and putting up stats without any situations or anything that involves the actual games, brehs.


like how you're going on about AI. did you even watch AI or those sixer teams? do you know how shyt they were offensively outside of AI and they had AI carried the entire offensive load while the rest of the team handled defense and provided some scrap scoring on the side.

here's a stat: Lakers went 15-1 in the 01 playoffs. they were on a 11 game playoff winning streak entering the finals until AI went off on them, scoring more than 40 points, and carrying his team to a win. ya they lost the series, but that showed the type of talent and skill AI had, you can't just put up stats and act like they're all the same.

Lebron's crazy high FG% came from him never taking the tough shot himself and looking for easy baskets. it translates well to a FG%, but i'm sure most players could score those easy fast breaks they kept producing and finishing off while on the heat(well not most players as most players don't have lebron's athleticism).

you listing stats doesn't mean you know fukk all about basketball so fukk off with that shyt and don't resort to calling other people dumbasses when you can't even provide your own reasoning beyond stats as to why one player is better than the other.

you want to make a case for curry then talk about how poorly the warriors offense runs without him, talk about the attention he's able to draw by simply running up to the three point line and creating a crazy amount of spacing for his teammates(which is huge in today's league), talk about his ability to handle the ball effortlessly while driving into the lane and hit wide open teammates(something he couldn't do a few years ago). make a case, don't post stats and act like you've won.

 

[MJ Truth]

Westbrook at his best his the best player in the league.

Westbrook at his best is not as good as LeBron James at 90% though, so how is this possible?

 

[jaydolf spitler]

Curry >>

 

[ALonelyDad]

They are not giving it to Russ being the 8th seed, it's sad but that's how it goes in the NBA.. it's not most valuable player, it's also your teams record

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Chef Curry got it this year


Dude has been the talk of the NBA ALL season and Warriors have the best recod I believe (largely because of him)... Westbrook just now starting to cook and we won't know how long that will last. Harden hooping with out Dwight Coward And Lebron has dikkriders so maybe next year Westbrook

 

[TooLazyToMakeUp1]

@ all this talk about not playing enough games

 

[Draje]

act like context isn't a thing and putting up stats without any situations or anything that involves the actual games, brehs.


like how you're going on about AI. did you even watch AI or those sixer teams? do you know how shyt they were offensively outside of AI and they had AI carried the entire offensive load while the rest of the team handled defense and provided some scrap scoring on the side.

here's a stat: Lakers went 15-1 in the 01 playoffs. they were on a 11 game playoff winning streak entering the finals until AI went off on them, scoring more than 40 points, and carrying his team to a win. ya they lost the series, but that showed the type of talent and skill AI had, you can't just put up stats and act like they're all the same.

Lebron's crazy high FG% came from him never taking the tough shot himself and looking for easy baskets. it translates well to a FG%, but i'm sure most players could score those easy fast breaks they kept producing and finishing off while on the heat(well not most players as most players don't have lebron's athleticism).

you listing stats doesn't mean you know fukk all about basketball so fukk off with that shyt and don't resort to calling other people dumbasses when you can't even provide your own reasoning beyond stats as to why one player is better than the other.

you want to make a case for curry then talk about how poorly the warriors offense runs without him, talk about the attention he's able to draw by simply running up to the three point line and creating a crazy amount of spacing for his teammates(which is huge in today's league), talk about his ability to handle the ball effortlessly while driving into the lane and hit wide open teammates(something he couldn't do a few years ago). make a case, don't post stats and act like you've won.

The 76ers had an average to awful offense with Iverson and won games off the strength of their defense.

Lebron's sky high efficiency comes from his abnormally high IQ, goat-tier finishing ability and touch.

I can give you plenty of reasoning that AI is an okay scorer but not better than Wade in terms of overall impact, why Curry is overall better than Westbrook, and why Lebron is great but the stats pretty much explain why.

AI was a ball dominant and inefficient chucker. It's why the Nuggets replaced him with Billups and looked loads better. AI posted up gaudy stats on ugly efficiency. Lebron and Wade posted up high scoring but did it on vastly higher efficiency while being the only scoring option on that team.

Stay mad. AI needed a flash in the pan year, the DPOTY, a great defensive coach that won COTY, and the 6th man of the year and acted like Iverson had no help. That team was built to let Iverson dominate the ball and score while the other members focused on the defense and hid Iverson so he could gamble in the passing lanes.

 

[Draje]

@KOBE

And as far your stupid assessment that Lebron avoids hard shots...stats still orove you wrong, fakkit.


LeBron is absurd in a lot of ways, but this is ridiculous. The Heat have played at a slower pace each of the past three years, and this year they're taking late-clock shots on 13.7 percent of their possessions, the fourth-highest share in the league, behind Memphis, Chicago, and Utah. This is not good; late shots are inherently less efficient shots. So how is Miami still the second-most efficient offense in the league, overall? LeBron, basically.

Of the Heat's massive number of late-clock plays, LeBron is responsible for 31.2 percent of them. This is the highest percentage of any team's late-clock possessions for a single player. And not only that, at 0.93 points per possession, he's miles ahead of the league average of 0.78 points per possession. Among players with at least 100 of these possessions, he's 12th in efficiency, and he's taken 347. Put another way: LeBron is more efficient with less than four seconds on the clock than Paul George and Tim Duncan (both right around 0.92) are in the halfcourt.

 

[Greenstrings]

As remarkable as Westbrook has been this season, everything you said is spot-on truth. No debate at all.

I'll also add that in the 2008-09 season, Dwyane Wade led the Miami Heat (pre-Lebron and with a much worse squad than Westbrook's) to 5th in the East while putting up comparable (if not better) stats than Westbrook's and he was BARELY in the MVP discussion. Obviously, he didn't win that year despite leading a team that would otherwise resemble this year's Knicks team without him.

Because D-Wade didn't win in 2008/09, I highly doubt that Westbrook wins MVP this year. Even if the OKC Thunder make a furious late-season charge for the playoffs, they won't finish above the 7th seed, at best.

Westbrook deserves major props for his performance this season (when healthy) and deserves to be in the MVP discussion. But that's where it stops.

The leading MVP candidates are: Steph Curry, James Harden, and LeBron James (as the dark horse).

Think you're forgetting how good Wade's 08-09 season actually was.

 

[William F. Russell]

Think you're forgetting how good Wade's 08-09 season actually was.

Quite the opposite actually.

 

[Greenstrings]

Quite the opposite actually.

Well either that or you're overrating Russ's current one. Great as he's been he hasn't come close to matching the consistency and efficiency of Wade that year.

 

[William F. Russell]

Well either that or you're overrating Russ's current one. Great as he's been he hasn't come close to matching the consistency and efficiency of Wade that year.

Breh, I said that if Wade couldn't win the MVP in 08/09, it's very unlikely Russ will win it this year. It's obvious that I rate Wade's 08/09 performance quite highly and that I think he was playing better than Russ is playing now.

I don't see how you're getting anything else out of my initial post.

 

[Greenstrings]

Breh, I said that if Wade couldn't win the MVP in 08/09, it's very unlikely Russ will win it this year. It's obvious that I rate Wade's 08/09 performance quite highly and that I think he was playing better than Russ is playing now.

I don't see how you're getting anything else out of my initial post.

That's markedly different to the decidedly tepid "comparable (if not better)" you used earlier.

 

[WeDemBoyz]

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

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