We've arrived at gaming's next phase: Loot Boxes

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It sucks, but a lot of this shyt is cosmetic or extras. Unlike VC in NBA 2K18 which forces you to grind unlike sports games in the past in an effort to try and get you to spend extra money.

People are bytching about this yet a AAA title was released last year (Titanfall 2) with a bunch of things added on for free and no praise is given.

The bottom line:
Gamers like to bytch about loot boxes, but nobody is exactly fighting for games that continue to add content as time goes on for free.

Warframe is literally one of the most played games on the internet and has one of the most devout fanbases around because they do this.
 

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Thanks Overwatch.

Shadow of War, Forza 7, WWE 2K18, Assassin's Creed: Origins, Star Wars Battlefront 2 pretty much every major new game has them now. Because it's not enough for you to buy DLC directly you need to buy a chance to get the piece of DLC you want or not.
whats a loot box?
 

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China Has Forced Blizzard To Reveal Exact 'Overwatch' And 'Hearthstone' Drop Rates

All this complaining but look...China has the law that forces them to show the rates. There they are.

Its definitely not fair to blame Blizzard for other companies being horrid with their practices. Overwatch since release has given maps, game modes, costumes...all updates for free since release. Its all funded by the people who spend the bread on the box. Id rather have this system than having to buy a map pack for example. I havent spent a dime on Overwatch and have never felt the need to, nor do I feel I have inadequate amounts of rare costumes compared to other players..

What the loot box system also does is make the rare stuff actually rare. This is fine for online multiplayer games. You dont want everyone having all the coolest costumes. Plus within those many boxes you get those drops for coins that will allow you to save up and truly buy those few costumes you really really want. And for everyone that costume will differ so those coins also add to how OW's system works really well.

Next the assumption that gambling addicts are the ones that buy the boxes. Evidence of that? When I played Overwatch I didnt level up and open my lootboxes because I had a gambling addiction. I did it cause its part of the gameplay and its weaved in well.There is also the gamer that will say "This game has provided me x amount of hours of fun, I want to support the devs who gives us free updates by buying a box."


Thinking about it....Imagine if Street Fighter V instead of DLC had lootboxes? So instead of buying the 20 different Chun li costumes, you could possibly get some through loot boxes? What if all the new stages and characters were free updates because there is a lootbox system?:jbhmm:

You win X amount off matches, level up, whatever... you get a box. That is more incentive to play the online modes. Similarly with Overwatch...Lot of the reason to just log in and level up is because the level up is rewarded with a box. Right now in fighters the only incentive to play online ranked is to get good or for worthless 'points'. Capcom has a 'fight money' option, but the fight money equivalents to real money for stages, characters etc are absurd and its impossible to get all the characters without paying, even for hardcore gamers. That fight money exchange rate exists because 1.Its not purely for cosmetics, and 2. you have a direct choice of what you can get. That system literally means you gotta use extra money or you wont have essential game content. Lootbox system would work way better, and who knows, maybe Capcom would make more money and have a livelier playerbase. I know I didnt buy season 1 or season 2 DLC and there are many others like me. Just like I wouldnt have bought the "Orisa" pack in Overwatch. Its good for free though:ehh:



I say let the people who wanna pay for lootboxes pay for them while I get the free content:ohhh: :blessed:


And finally I dont like the idea of saying "children play these games!" either. Your kid shouldnt have easy access to your credit card, you can PW protect your credit card on consoles.....and you shouldnt have your credit card info saved onto these consoles anyway due to hackers.
 
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They are only a issue if your impatient.
Online players who have no life always have had an advantage as they grind all day for advantage

Single player games have always been about embracing the grind. This has only been an issue over the past year or so
 

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China Has Forced Blizzard To Reveal Exact 'Overwatch' And 'Hearthstone' Drop Rates

All this complaining but look...China has the law that forces them to show the rates. There they are.

Its definitely not fair to blame Blizzard for other companies being horrid with their practices. Overwatch since release has given maps, game modes, costumes...all updates for free since release. Its all funded by the people who spend the bread on the box. Id rather have this system than having to buy a map pack for example. I havent spent a dime on Overwatch and have never felt the need to, nor do I feel I have inadequate amounts of rare costumes compared to other players..

What the loot box system also does is make the rare stuff actually rare. This is fine for online multiplayer games. You dont want everyone having all the coolest costumes. Plus within those many boxes you get those drops for coins that will allow you to save up and truly buy those few costumes you really really want. And for everyone that costume will differ so those coins also add to how OW's system works really well.

Next the assumption that gambling addicts are the ones that buy the boxes. Evidence of that? When I played Overwatch I didnt level up and open my lootboxes because I had a gambling addiction. I did it cause its part of the gameplay and its weaved in well.There is also the gamer that will say "This game has provided me x amount of hours of fun, I want to support the devs who gives us free updates by buying a box."


Thinking about it....Imagine if Street Fighter V instead of DLC had lootboxes? So instead of buying the 20 different Chun li costumes, you could possibly get some through loot boxes? What if all the new stages and characters were free updates because there is a lootbox system?:jbhmm:

You win X amount off matches, level up, whatever... you get a box. That is more incentive to play the online modes. Similarly with Overwatch...Lot of the reason to just log in and level up is because the level up is rewarded with a box. Right now in fighters the only incentive to play online ranked is to get good or for worthless 'points'. Capcom has a 'fight money' option, but the fight money equivalents to real money for stages, characters etc are absurd and its impossible to get all the characters without paying, even for hardcore gamers. That fight money exchange rate exists because 1.Its not purely for cosmetics, and 2. you have a direct choice of what you can get. That system literally means you gotta use extra money or you wont have essential game content. Lootbox system would work way better, and who knows, maybe Capcom would make more money and have a livelier playerbase. I know I didnt buy season 1 or season 2 DLC and there are many others like me. Just like I wouldnt have bought the "Orisa" pack in Overwatch. Its good for free though:ehh:



I say let the people who wanna pay for lootboxes pay for them while I get the free content:ohhh: :blessed:


And finally I dont like the idea of saying "children play these games!" either. Your kid shouldnt have easy access to your credit card, you can PW protect your credit card on consoles.....and you shouldnt have your credit card info saved onto these consoles anyway due to hackers.

Street Fighter is doing that in January breh. Get ready to earn those rare Chun Li costumes.
 

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I hear you guys, but look at it from both sides. Once they get that initial 60, their only form of revenue is in loot boxes. It cost alot of money to run servers for millions of people to play on 24/7, not to mention paying the people who have to oversee its smooth function. I agree the gambling thing is a little shady, but i also having been online gaming since 99, and have seen what happens to good games that don't get official support from its creators because its no longer worth the trouble.
 

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While I do think lootboxes suck.. gamers love, love, LOVE being outraged over any and everything. It's why I can't go to places like neocac. This is another thing that's being blown out of proportion.

Developers are just trying to make more money on their 3 year investments for AAA games. Its a business like anything else. We've all heard the horror stories of devs working 90 hours a week to meet deadlines. God forbid they cash in a little bit. How many big time studios have shut down in recent years? Not everyone is banking like take 2 and sony. Some are barely making profit. shyt like this helps those companies.

If you don't like it don't buy it. Bunch of grown men in here complaining about chump change, but then buy a $1000 graphics card just to make their games look better from two feet further away.

Publishers are pushing this shyt not the devs
 

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Why do keep speaking like myplayer is the only mode in 2K? The shyt only makes up like 1/8th of the game.
Myteam is also a big part of the game. And those fukking pack odds are shyt... You got kids begging their parents 50 spots to buy packs of chance (like old breh said unregulated gambling). Then when they've bled these guys out on weak chances for weak cards, they introduce slightly better cards in packs.

There has to be a class action somewhere in this shyt
 

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Myteam is also a big part of the game. And those fukking pack odds are shyt... You got kids begging their parents 50 spots to buy packs of chance (like old breh said unregulated gambling). Then when they've bled these guys out on weak chances for weak cards, they introduce slightly better cards in packs.

There has to be a class action somewhere in this shyt

If a idiot want to do it it’s on them:yeshrug:

I will never get any myteam type mode
 
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