What Americans Don’t Get About Nordic Countries

[theworldismine13]

That's an argument against ability to implement not efficacy

im neutral on social programs, some of them work some of them dont, some of them are good some of them are bad, some are sustainable and some arent

until a specific and detailed proposal for a social program is made i have no opinion on it

what i am against is black people making social programs their top political and geopolitical goal, social programs are not an effective weapon against white supremacy, its a cowardly and feminine way of confronting white supremacy

 

[theworldismine13]

How does racial or cultural diversity make it hard to agree on social programs?

racial and cultural diversity make it hard to agree on anything, period

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

racial and cultural diversity make it hard to agree on anything, period

Do you have any proof of this?

Doesn't really matter. Even with all our "racial and cultural diversity" the majority of Americans still want Nordic style social programs. So there's agreement there

Kaiser Poll: 58% of Americans support Medicare for all - PNHP's Official Blog
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Poll: Most support making college free

Last I heard democracies operate via majority. Do you know what democracy & majorities are?

 

[theworldismine13]

Do you have any proof of this?

Doesn't really matter. Even with all our "racial and cultural diversity" the majority of Americans still want Nordic style social programs. So there's agreement there

Kaiser Poll: 58% of Americans support Medicare for all - PNHP's Official Blog
Voters want paid leave, paid sick days, poll shows. Obama, too. Will Congress oblige?
Poll: Most support making college free

Last I heard democracies operate via majority. Do you know what democracy & majorities are?

i swear your posts are written with such good grammar but they are just filled with ignorance and stupidity

there is plenty of proof that it does for anybody that cares to do any research, let me help you out

Let me google that for you

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i have no idea what some random poll about some random social program is suppose to signify

we dont live in a democracy, we live in a republic where laws are made by elected representatives under a constitution, on top of that there is this thing called politics that overlays everything

do you understand politics? do you understand that politics is impacted by social cohesion?

do you know the difference between a democracy and a republic? obviously you dont, so let me help you out again

 

[DEAD7]

Democracy + a completely different set of values will vary results IMO...

Democracy Nordic countries don't have elected leaders?

Guess I should have spelled out "plus".

How does racial or cultural diversity make it hard to agree on social programs?

Accounting for and compensating for the unequal starting points people occupy is much more difficult in America. Not saying the Nordic system 'cant' work... just that its much more different in a nation like America.

 

[DEAD7]

I wonder why the fact that the current citizenry would fight it tooth and nail isnt counted as a reason why it wouldnt work?

 

[theworldismine13]

I wonder why the fact that the current citizenry would fight it tooth and nail isnt counted as a reason why it wouldnt work?

It's cuz there is going to be a revolution first to get rid of those pesky malcontents

Are you ready for the revolution, brother!

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

i have no idea what some random poll about some random social program is suppose to signify

It signifies the sentiments of the American people on Nordic style social programs...

A much more pointed and relevant representation than your frantic Google search of arbitrary terms.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Accounting for and compensating for the unequal starting points people occupy is much more difficult in America. Not saying the Nordic system 'cant' work... just that its much more different in a nation like America.

Wouldn't Nordic style social programs that give everyone access to things like childcare and healthcare be a pretty straightforward way to compensate for said unequal starting points

 

[theworldismine13]

It signifies the sentiments of the American people on Nordic style social programs...

A much more pointed and relevant representation than your frantic Google search of arbitrary terms.

there are a lot of social programs that are popular with the public, how you jump from that to saying a majority support an expansion of social programs is beyond me

do you have any polls that show that americans want a nordic style social welfare system?

 

[tmonster]

Social programs don't work when brown people are in an area folks this is basic.

SMARTEN UP!!!

explain

 

[tmonster]

Why do we have such a sad welfare state in the world's greatest capitalist economy? I learned on the Coli it's because of blacks and Mexicans

o the coli math....ok carry on

 

[Mr.Big Meat McGee]

Social programs don't work when brown people are in an area folks this is basic.

SMARTEN UP!!!

Pretty much this. White people want social programs...just not for Black people and minorities.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

there are a lot of social programs that are popular with the public, how you jump from that to saying a majority support an expansion of social programs is beyond me

do you have any polls that show that americans want a nordic style social welfare system?

I just posted links to polls showing Americans want Nordic style social programs. Don't try to move the goalposts once you have been scored on.

 

[theworldismine13]

I just posted links to polls showing Americans want Nordic style social programs. Don't try to move the goalposts once you have been scored on.

I'm not moving the goal posts, the goal posts that I laid is that implementing a Nordic welfare system through a congress isn't going to happen

Implementing a Nordic style welfare system includes raising taxes, so any poll about social programs that doesn't include that part is not informative because taxes is the crux of the issue, and why it's hard to implement in the us


So I'm not moving the goal posts, I'm asking if you have any polls showing that Americans approve of nordic style welfare programs and the accompanying tax increases

In other words it's not about social programs it's about social systems

That is why my google links to social cohesion and social capital are extremely important, because they have a lot to do with whether people are willing to have their taxes increased to benefit the larger society