What are the top three STEM Bachelor degrees?

[j.smooth4]

75k in debt...

How long is it going to take you to pay that off?

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If your making 60k a year lets say 50k after taxes
If you get your living expenses down to 1500 a month
500-800 rent (with roommates) 200 car insurance/gas 150 food 50 cell phone, 100 health insurance, 200 elsewhere)
Thats only 18,000-20,000 Thats 20,000-30,000 left cash live cheap for three years and your debt free.

Most people only have 20-40k in college debt though unless they went out of state for school.

Those 4000 dollar checks every month had some of my friends wildin out on shopping sprees lol

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

If your making 60k a year lets say 50k after taxes
If you get your living expenses down to 1500 a month
500-800 rent (with roommates) 200 car insurance/gas 150 food 50 cell phone, 100 health insurance, 200 elsewhere)
Thats only 18,000-20,000 Thats 20,000-30,000 left cash live cheap for three years and your debt free.

Most people only have 20-40k in college debt though unless they went out of state for school.

Those 4000 dollar checks every month had some of my friends wildin out on shopping sprees lol

You sound like the guys who write those articles on business insider.

 

[duckbutta]

theres more to working than just going through school

as far as the debt, im looking at 20k bonus on signing

and then ill pay it as i go, im looking into opening sources of passive income in the meantime

what would i have bought with 75k in the time i racked it up? probably alcohol and bud only reason i have that much is because i wasted 3-4 years of classes dropping and retaking

if you went to get a degree in IT, you should have already considered the fact your field would be oversaturated with talent(see accountants and nurses for example)

many people saw the late 90s early 2000s tech boom, but didnt realize that others did as well. I have a bunch of friends who work with CSharpe and Python that are doing well for themselves(not as well as me but i digress)

at the end of the day, you have a specific situation and factors that only you personally are aware of. If you get into software engineering....you have to embrace a lifetime of learning like the rest of engineering fields. The times change and the goal of the engineer is to provide value to the process owner. You do that by having top knowledge of tech in your field and excellent ability to sell what you know and how you can contribute. If you fail to do this you will fail regardless of field.

It's not logically conceivable for everyone to have top knowledge in a field. It's not logically conceivable for everyone to have "excellent" ability at one thing let along everything...

 

[duckbutta]

If your making 60k a year lets say 50k after taxes
If you get your living expenses down to 1500 a month
500-800 rent (with roommates) 200 car insurance/gas 150 food 50 cell phone, 100 health insurance, 200 elsewhere)
Thats only 18,000-20,000 Thats 20,000-30,000 left cash live cheap for three years and your debt free.

Most people only have 20-40k in college debt though unless they went out of state for school.

Those 4000 dollar checks every month had some of my friends wildin out on shopping sprees lol

Almost impossible to do that with your taxes...

And you are falling into the trap that the overwhelming majority of college graduates fall into

I thought the point of getting in to stem disciples was to make a lot of money

So why are you making post about how to ration out the little bit of money you are getting from your stem disciple that was supposed to make you a lot of money over X amount of years

Did you go to school for 4 years and rack up that debt and get that degree so you could spend 4 more years being very cheap so you could pay off student debt

Aren't you sort of damned to taking the first opportunity that comes along rather it is a fit for you or not so you can start paying off that debt...clock is ticking on it rather you get a job or not

 

[j.smooth4]

this is honestly the best way to go. the tradition of going to a 4 year all the way through if you dont come from means is going to become a thing of the past within the next 5-10 years if you ask me

Personally I wouldn't have given my freshmen year for anything. The parties the no parents lol.

I recommend going to a four year school for one semester or two or at least taking one class there so you get networked/apart of the community. Transfer students never seem as well networked at the four year students unless they join a bunch of clubs, or are social.

Of course as an engineer you only have but so much time for socialization and networking.

 

[j.smooth4]

Almost impossible to do that with your taxes...

And you are falling into the trap that the overwhelming majority of college graduates fall into

I thought the point of getting in to stem disciples was to make a lot of money

So why are you making post about how to ration out the little bit of money you are getting from your stem disciple that was supposed to make you a lot of money over X amount of years

Did you go to school for 4 years and rack up that debt and get that degree so you could spend 4 more years being very cheap so you could pay off student debt

Aren't you sort of damned to taking the first opportunity that comes along rather it is a fit for you or not so you can start paying off that debt...clock is ticking on it rather you get a job or not

The job I work at now pays 17-27 an hour entry level at non supervisory positions with benefits and overtime. Once you turn 21 it's not hard to find a 20 dollar an hour job either working at a high end restaurant, banquet serving, warehousing, construction, sales, etc. All jobs that don't require a degree or much training. Save up for a few years and pay off school in CASH.

 

[j.smooth4]

not to mention the military often pays for school too if your willing to give up those 4-7 years

 

[j.smooth4]

But going down the list here are my stereotypes about many common Stem majors

Mech E-Pays average, pretty stable
Civ E-Pays lower, dealing with big budgets/harsh timetables
ECE-Hard lol Pays well
BioE-
BioMedE-
BioMechE- The three bio engineerings can sometimes be useless as a biodegree unless near a biotech area, they pay average, and lab oriented
Industrial E-Your going to be working in factories, pays average
Chem E-hard but pays well alot end up working with food or products like shampoo
Material Science E-Too similar to chem imo doesn't pay as well
Aerospace E-hard, pays well but too specific and hard to find a job
Auto E-Pays average Stable
EE-Hard but has job security
Engineering Management-becoming more popular as engineers want business knowledge.
Environmental E-Heard its hard to find jobs
Petro E-Pays very very well but hard and its hard to get your foot in the door
Nucelar E-Very hard, Very specific, Pays very well but hard to find jobs widespread
Computer E-Hard but pays well, you have to keep updated with languages

Biology-Easier than others but its not specific enough and they're are too many bio majors, useless unless your going to grad school
Chem-Pays better but wages seem stagnant around 50-70k without grad school
Physics-Hard but with out PHD I dont know to many physics majors who have good jobs.
Math/Applied Math/stats-Pretty well for finding jobs and applicable to a lot of fields.

Comp Sci-Pays well but you have to keep updated and trained on languages
Info systems-better to get a comp sci degree, learn a language it will pay a lot more the more programming you know.

 

[j.smooth4]

Did you go to school for 4 years and rack up that debt and get that degree so you could spend 4 more years being very cheap so you could pay off student debt

The point is so you can have job security for 30-40 years before you retire. At some of my jobs a lot of people are fukked they have kids, live above their means, paid too much for a car or house and they are stuck in the rat race. Why not get a degree before 25 or 30 even to be able to work jobs that both require it and don't require it.

Personally if you live below your means and pay off your debt you could be earning six figures in your mid thirties after experience and moving up the ranks. If you live in metro areas there's always a job for an engineer

 

[MMS]

It's not logically conceivable for everyone to have top knowledge in a field. It's not logically conceivable for everyone to have "excellent" ability at one thing let along everything...

and thats the crux of capitalism. Not everyone is gonna make it

the american dream of doing what ur supposed to and making it to the big time is just that, a dream.

There are fundamentals to understand:
1. People with capital run this place
2. If you don't offer useful service you arent useful, therefore noone will pay you
3. If what you offer becomes obsolete, you as a person are obsolete

it is what it is

 

[MMS]

Personally I wouldn't have given my freshmen year for anything. The parties the no parents lol.

I recommend going to a four year school for one semester or two or at least taking one class there so you get networked/apart of the community. Transfer students never seem as well networked at the four year students unless they join a bunch of clubs, or are social.

Of course as an engineer you only have but so much time for socialization and networking.

its a battle thats for sure, but imo the over networking only works if you are in a fraternity and they are supplementing your social life by helping you cheat

otherwise you will be fukked in a heartbeat

 

[MMS]

But going down the list here are my stereotypes about many common Stem majors

Mech E-Pays average, pretty stable
Civ E-Pays lower, dealing with big budgets/harsh timetables
ECE-Hard lol Pays well
BioE-
BioMedE-
BioMechE- The three bio engineerings can sometimes be useless as a biodegree unless near a biotech area, they pay average, and lab oriented
Industrial E-Your going to be working in factories, pays average
Chem E-hard but pays well alot end up working with food or products like shampoo
Material Science E-Too similar to chem imo doesn't pay as well
Aerospace E-hard, pays well but too specific and hard to find a job
Auto E-Pays average Stable
EE-Hard but has job security
Engineering Management-becoming more popular as engineers want business knowledge.
Environmental E-Heard its hard to find jobs
Petro E-Pays very very well but hard and its hard to get your foot in the door
Nucelar E-Very hard, Very specific, Pays very well but hard to find jobs widespread
Computer E-Hard but pays well, you have to keep updated with languages

Biology-Easier than others but its not specific enough and they're are too many bio majors, useless unless your going to grad school
Chem-Pays better but wages seem stagnant around 50-70k without grad school
Physics-Hard but with out PHD I dont know to many physics majors who have good jobs.
Math/Applied Math/stats-Pretty well for finding jobs and applicable to a lot of fields.

Comp Sci-Pays well but you have to keep updated and trained on languages
Info systems-better to get a comp sci degree, learn a language it will pay a lot more the more programming you know.

chem e and petroleum are more or less interchangeable. just dealing with different chemicals

oil and downstream chemical refining are the backbone of my curriculum

also biomedical/biochemical are related to chem e as well. HOWEVER Biosystems engineering is not and is more or less farm/agricultural engineering DO NOT BE FOOLED! it pays shyt i do not recommend it

and Nuclear engineering is not hard what so ever, if id say something is hard id go with Electrical or Chemical due to the nature of our control systems

 

[j.smooth4]

and Nuclear engineering is not hard what so ever, if id say something is hard id go with Electrical or Chemical due to the nature of our control systems

The physics though, I cant even say i know someone personally that's a nuclear engineer lol

 

[j.smooth4]

Electrical or Chemical due to the nature of our control systems

Have you had an internship yet?

 

[Data-Hawk]

75k in debt...

How long is it going to take you to pay that off?

What happens if you lose your job?

Do you ever think about what you could have purchased with that additional 75k in your life time...

I am in the opposite end of the boat...I had a full ride scholarship to go to school so it cost me nothing...and that was the only way I was going to go to college because I did not want to take the gamble of racking up a huge amount of debt for something that is in no way a sure thing...i would have just went to trade school and become an electrician or plumber or something...

I work in IT and I know plenty of people who can solve problems, are self motivated, don't expect shyt to be easy....and can't get a job in IT...

Only so many positions to go around...only so many openings ever year...a project is called a project because at some point it ends and you don't need X amount of people doing X amount of things anymore...

Whats the better option if that's the field he enjoys? Should he be stuck in a dead end job just to avoid being 75K in debt? The "What happens if you lose your job" shouldn't matter because what if you get hit by a bus tomorrow?

Being stuck in 75K debt is alot better than being stuck in a dead end job you hate .Reading your post is basically saying "Why waste your time".