What can Hillary GET DONE that Bernie Can't, that will help the middle to poor classes?

[GzUp]

Like most Presidents what she proposes and what she can accomplish are not necessarily the same thing. So for this College Compact she would have to first work to secure the votes necessary in Congress and through a process of negotiating, arm twisting and compromise a deal would get done that is palatable enough to get the necessary votes to be passed. The hope is that she will have enough votes on her side that she doesn't have to compromise too much but the bill that actually gets voted on and passed won't be the deal that is on her website or at the very least it will have a ton of amendments attached to it as payoffs to people she needed to secure votes from.
That is politics.
Plus it doesn't mater what anyone writes about Clinton because you will automatically shyt on it because you hate her and think she is evil incarnate.
A better question for this forum that is overwhelmingly pro-Bernie Sanders is just what are you willing to see him compromise on in order to get anything done because it won't be what he is promising on the campaign trail.
He wants free state college for everyone. That would be a major fight and Bernie would have to make compromises on both sides of the aisle in order to get something done that is in the same universe as free tuition but that will never actually be free tuition.
So how far are you willing to see a Pres. Sanders bend and contort in order to get something instead of nothing?

he already knows the answers to it, hes just trying to troll people.

 

[the cac mamba]

@wire28 @GzUp @Atlrocafella

These bernie bros gonna fukk the whole election up with their stupidity.

did you actually answer this thread tho

 

[MrSinnister]

We're not anti-bernie himself, but he's got a serious strategic problem among his voters and theres a risk they won't support HRC...when she wins the democratic nomination.

We're not. I'm voting 3rd party. I don't support obvious corruption that won't help my people, sorry.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

We're not. I'm voting 3rd party. I don't support obvious corruption that won't help my people, sorry.

You're going to split a vote...which won't change shyt, and affect a marginally better outcome.

I hope you nikkas don't do negotiations in real life...you're TERRIBLE at it.

 

[the cac mamba]

ya thats what i foresaw, bernie has them in there feelings and are all giddy with the free stuff... but i feel bernie is being smart and responsible to not attack hilliary so when he drops out he can get his voters to vote hilliary.

you realize that most of his supporters are gonna be done with college right

as far as healthcare, i know ill be paying for it somehow, but its for the greater good

this isnt about 'free stuff', this is about voting for the only one pretending to give a fukk about the average american

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

It's obvious she's not going to help us, but they refuse to see it because they're weak ass frontrunners. They replace arrogance and confidence with due diligence and are as bright as trolls.

All you have to do is see the policies the Senate was able to pass and Federal Reserve actions. I guess it would help if you're in the market, but if political policy confuses you to the extent of hostility of these bozos, I wouldn't even try that.

my nikka...bernie won't "help" you either.

Obama doesn't MAKE jobs...he submits proposals for budgets...thats it.

Congress does all that shyt, if they wanted to "make" jobs...

You all keep acting like obama was supposed to pay your mortgage, that you all didn't read the contracts on ironically, and bail YOU out.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

What can Hillary GET DONE that Bernie Can't, that will help the middle to poor classes?

Hillary stans, and Bernie Haters. I need examples and explanations. Because i keep hearing this. so i want to know what these things are that she will do. yall follow here a lot. let us know.

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[MrSinnister]

You're going to split a vote...which won't change shyt, and affect a marginally better outcome.

I hope you nikkas don't do negotiations in real life...you're TERRIBLE at it.

We need a 3rd progressive party, that's all there is to it. We're tired of being lied to for votes and then ignored, until needed again and people playing the fear games. It's why we're not complete marks.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Walmart workers will get $.50 raises!

That's about it

(Bernie would double their shyt)

Again, certain major cities and states can afford a $15 MW...not every state federally.

Thats why Alabama can do $10.10 but NYC/SF/Seattle/LA can toy around with $15-17

 

[GzUp]

you realize that most of his supporters are gonna be done with college right

as far as healthcare, i know ill be paying for it somehow, but its for the greater good

this isnt about 'free stuff', this is about voting for the only one pretending to give a fukk about the average american

i have no problem with paying for my healthcare, i get treated alot better and see specialist very quick.

yes it is.

im not going to vote for someone who just happens to have a good heart.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

We need a 3rd progressive party, that's all there is to it. We're tired of being lied to for votes and then ignored, until needed again and people playing the fear games. It's why we're not complete marks.

You don't have one.

And until you do, stop being a child.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

i have no problem with paying for my healthcare, i get treated alot better and see specialist very quick.

yes it is.

im not going to vote for someone who just happens to have a good heart.

BINGO...if we get socialized HC, i'm still going to hopefully get a private option if possible. Many countries with binary systems report positive outcomes with private options as well.

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

Taxes won't fix that...and honestly, trump's protectionist ideas do more to the american economy than any democrat has offered...

lets be SUPER honest

Do more of what?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

terrible logic. that does NOTHING for black people. JUST getting elected means ZILCH for middle class/ broke people.
an elected official that doesnt have a trackrecord of PEOPLE policies aside from possibly helping white women get equal pay. i just aint seeing it yall. but maybe yall can explain further. POLICIES BRUHS, POLICIES.

you all have to stop this whole "one POTUS will save us" logic

Your local politicians fukk you way more than a POTUS ever will.

EVER.

E V E R.

Blame the weakass CBC.

Blame your corrupt ass mayor and senators and state legislatures.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

the reason they may not work with hillary is because she's a women. They hate women as much if not more than they hate black men. especially when it comes to someone telling them what to do. At the end of the day "ITS A MAN'S WORLD" still stands. So MEN on average dont like to listen to WOMEN. even when its in their best interest to do so.

White men will talk to other white men and have a drink with them, etc, etc.

is it right? NOPE. is it real? YEP.

you darn near need to get a lady in office when things are already running real smooth and we have a nice surplus. everyone is pretty much happy and back to work. then throw in a lady thats smart and can lead. so she looks good without having to do a lot. then it could change the tide of how MEN in general see women in leadership roles.

Another thing. people say how could bernie get things gone and he's further left then the centrist/corporatists Hillary?

For one he cant get things done on his own. The type of campaign bernie is running is talking about the people stepping up to vote, not just for him. but for others that are not on the take/payroll of the few rich. and actually put people in office that care about YOU and your issues when they get to washington. that goes for repub constituents as well. its enough of this vote for whoever rush tells me too(who is ultra rich). or vote for who the koch bros tell me too(who are ultra ballers.) the more the repub people choose level headed folks that aint tainted. the more we can all get things done as a nation. that goes for dem voters too. stop voting for status quo candidates that have never done the PEOPLE any favors. this is truly what Bern is pushing for.

But because you guys are so stuck in the idea of "we can't change it.. .its to far gone." it will never actually change. so you will keep voting for these corporatists. while you think you're doing so well voting blue. blue/red wont mean much. think about it. for all the fun we had during the clinton era. when his policies had time to marinate. most of us took L's did we not? We took L's like we were told we would take if we let a Repub in office. This is what people mean when they say both parties are the same. if they are both on the take. they are identical.

How can you get money out of politics if you a the chance of a life time to vote for a non money guy and you choose not to, then you choose to vote for yet another corporate puppet.

Think about that for a moment. when will it stop? how will it ever get better for the rest of us if we keep doing the exact same thing expecting a different result?

Whats your plans for your 21st birthday?

I remember mine like it was yesterday

Well...good luck this semester