What can Hillary GET DONE that Bernie Can't, that will help the middle to poor classes?

[MrSinnister]

my nikka...bernie won't "help" you either.

Obama doesn't MAKE jobs...he submits proposals for budgets...thats it.

Congress does all that shyt, if they wanted to "make" jobs...

You all keep acting like obama was supposed to pay your mortgage, that you all didn't read the contracts on ironically, and bail YOU out.

I didn't expect any of that. I expected the corruption and usual Washington games to end. I expect them to stop allowing businesses to cheat on taxes, but make sure we pay our withholding, and we also have a hidden tax, Social Security, that we were supposed to get back eventually. It had a surplus, but is gone and continuously being used up, to pay for wars and tax dodgers.

If you pretend that's somehow normal, you're not in a democracy, but in a fascist goverment. But people have normalized you into being cheated and expecting words not to matter. You are throwing your voting power away, and it's sad. I'm not expecting free college. My main issues are goverment corruption, crony revolving door capitalism, tax fairness and anti-repatriation, and getting money out of politics. Bonus issue is to stop letting companies ship our jobs overseas with the tax subsidies we give them.

 

[GzUp]

BINGO...if we get socialized HC, i'm still going to hopefully get a private option if possible. Many countries with binary systems report positive outcomes with private options as well.

i work in healthcare and talked to many people who have lived in canada and parts of europe and socialized healthcare is horrible... if you want to see a nuerologist u have to wait like 6 months sometimes, even basic appointments are hard to get... they have a huge problem with there ER department, many go there cuz they dont have to wait and be seen.... fukk all that.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

now, lets assume Hillary can work better with them. to your point they are from the same pigpen. So this means what for us regular folk again?

Thats my point. anyone saying bu bu but she can get things done. WHAT THINGS are these that will HELP US? NOT help corporate america. What part of this dont you guys understand?

When has shyt ever been good for ALL of us bro?

White people just are angry this ain't the 50s anymore.

Theres more hands in the pot.

We all struggling (well not me...but... )

And lets not be so quick to shyt on corporate america...those are easily 50%+ of all jobs in this country. What more do you want...specifically?

 

[MrSinnister]

You don't have one.

And until you do, stop being a child.

We'll never get one if we keep going along to get along. I'd rather just go through some lumps, until people force their gov't to be more responsive, than this slow death and White anger the Democratic corruption is causing with its lies. You can't scare me out of this. Blacks will continue to be targeted for murder and those people will get off, if we keep allowing dissatisfaction to go up.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

you realize that most of his supporters are gonna be done with college right

as far as healthcare, i know ill be paying for it somehow, but its for the greater good

this isnt about 'free stuff', this is about voting for the only one pretending to give a fukk about the average american

...like Trump?

 

[LurkMoar]

they have no answer to this they go on and on about how hillary is going to get be able to "get things done" but can't name a single thing

But i did answer and it was shot down as unrealistic

But apparently bernie can force republicans to bend to his will

This type of fanatism is almost trump like

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Do more of what?

Trump's protectionism and outright direct assertion of the supremacy of american jobs is something no other candidate has done.

Period

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I didn't expect any of that. I expected the corruption and usual Washington games to end. I expect them to stop allowing businesses to cheat on taxes, but make sure we pay our withholding, and we also have a hidden tax, Social Security, that we were supposed to get back eventually. It had a surplus, but is gone and continuously being used up, to pay for wars and tax dodgers.

If you pretend that's somehow normal, you're not in a democracy, but in a fascist goverment. But people have normalized you into being cheated and expecting words not to matter. You are throwing your voting power away, and it's sad. I'm not expecting free college. My main issues are goverment corruption, crony revolving door capitalism, tax fairness and anti-repatriation, and getting money out of politics. Bonus issue is to stop letting companies ship our jobs overseas with the tax subsidies we give them.

Well Bernie isn't winning, so its time you hedge your bets and focus on alternatives...

 

[the cac mamba]

...like Trump?

i will be voting trump if its trump/hillary

i actually think he cares about the average american more than hillary if not for the sole reason that he wants to be recognized for it

plus im not mad at him saying something about illegals, at all. not to mention banning muslim travel that doesnt help me. it certainly didnt on 9-11

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

We'll never get one if we keep going along to get along. I'd rather just go through some lumps, until people force their gov't to be more responsive, than this slow death and White anger the Democratic corruption is causing with its lies. You can't scare me out of this. Blacks will continue to be targeted for murder and those people will get off, if we keep allowing dissatisfaction to go up.

Democratic corruption?

Thats.

Hilarious.

 

[StatUS]

People throw the free college thing around at Bernie but it's mostly the anti-corruption/regulate the finance industry that gets most of his support.

A vote for Hillary on this means you except the way things are or believe she is telling the truth that she will do something about it.

Alot of Bernie Sanders supporters just no longer want the government to be controlled by money.

Honestly, if that's the stance then people should be proud that some people are willing to stand for that instead of voting for the lesser evil again.

 

[Eternal Tecate]

Again, certain major cities and states can afford a $15 MW...not every state federally.

Thats why Alabama can do $10.10 but NYC/SF/Seattle/LA can toy around with $15-17

it's just dependent on how much freedom state governments allow the corporations operating in them have

 

[Eternal Tecate]

i work in healthcare and talked to many people who have lived in canada and parts of europe and socialized healthcare is horrible... if you want to see a nuerologist u have to wait like 6 months sometimes, even basic appointments are hard to get... they have a huge problem with there ER department, many go there cuz they dont have to wait and be seen.... fukk all that.

everyone I've talked to says the opposite

 

[MrSinnister]

Democratic corruption?

Thats.

Hilarious.

You seriously don't think there's democratic corruption. I'll give you a very brief examlle. In 2014, Obama lobbied Congress for Jamie Dimon to have 2 of the strongest protections of Dodd-Frank removed, that to keep them from betting on risky derivatives, and also the separation of depositor funds from investing. It was done in the Omnibus bill.

2. Simply look up the story if Evan Bayh.

I don't have to explain anymore. They're documented facts with no conjecture. It's your choice how you choose to see it.

 

[MrSinnister]

everyone I've talked to says the opposite

They've been spreading that lie for 15 years. My ex fiance is British and she says she has no problem, but they get a tax benefit if they opt out, which her dad did. She says the opting out that the Tories put into the plan is far worst than any service issues, because of overall solvency.