What do the Knicks do?

[Apex]

Since we know that this season is basically over and they won't be accomplishing much... what do they do this offseason? Do they just go in an all-out rebuilding mode or do they try to supply Melo with some talent (good chance he leaves, too.)

I'm expecting some solid input, brehs

 

[YoungSkeezy]

heres what the knicks shouldn't do, use almost all the cap space to sign 2 nikkas to max contracts, especially when one isn't anywhere near worth it.

 

[gho3st]

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Since we know that this season is basically over and they won't be accomplishing much... what do they do this offseason? Do they just go in an all-out rebuilding mode or do they try to supply Melo with some talent (good chance he leaves, too.)

I'm expecting some solid input, brehs

They should have tried to trade Melo for 1st round picks and probably a young player. With both Bargnani and Amare on the books next year, i doubt they can improve the team enough for them to compete for a championship. Melo is 29, if he wants to play for a championship he'll have to take less money which could leave the Knicks empty-handed. with no 1st round picks next year then the future is kinda bleak
And if Melo takes the max the knicks will offer, then your team's future is fukked too.


Donnie Walsh started the rebuilding plan with a lot of young players and picks. But they threw all that away because Dolan caved under CAA pressure and couldn't wait the summer since Melo was going to sign there anyways. They also made a mistake signing Amare when doctors told him his knees could hold up for 2 years at best. What makes that signing worse is that they had the better and more durable player in Lee who they would have signed for less money than the 100m they gave Amare.

Both Lakers and Knicks franchises are in the same boat didn't think i'd ever say that shyt

 

[LexDiamonds]

NY never rebuilds they'll try and retool somehow. They gotta bit of cap space coming up after next year so they gotta sell Melo on having a shytty next season to get a superstar in 2015.

 

[Apex]

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They should have tried to trade Melo for 1st round picks and probably a young player. With both Bargnani and Amare on the books next year, i doubt they can improve the team enough for them to compete for a championship. Melo is 29, if he wants to play for a championship he'll have to take less money which could leave the Knicks empty-handed. with no 1st round picks next year then the future is kinda bleak
And if Melo takes the max the knicks will offer, then your team's future is fukked too.


Donnie Walsh started the rebuilding plan with a lot of young players and picks. But they threw all that away because Dolan caved under CAA pressure and couldn't wait the summer since Melo was going to sign there anyways. They also made a mistake signing Amare when doctors told him his knees could hold up for 2 years at best. What makes that signing worse is that they had the better and more durable player in Lee who they would have signed for less money than the 100m they gave Amare.

Both Lakers and Knicks franchises are in the same boat didn't think i'd ever say that shyt

Except the Lakers have excellent cap space coming their way and a top draft pick this year.

 

[gho3st]

Except the Lakers have excellent cap space coming their way and a top draft pick this year.

I was talking about management.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

LOL the Lakers and the Knicks are not in the same boat at all. They are not even in the same fukking ocean.

The Lakers despite recent trouble, will always do what's necessary to win. They are essentially the Yankees of the NBA.

 

[YoungSkeezy]

LOL the Lakers and the Knicks are not in the same boat at all. They are not even in the same fukking ocean.

The Lakers despite recent trouble, will always do what's necessary to win. They are essentially the Yankees of the NBA.

The Daniel Bryan of the NBA too

 

[Malta]

They are going to lose Melo, I think that shyt is in stone at this point. They own their draft pick next year, so if there's a year to tank it's then, after that they won't get a first rounder until 2017.

 

[gho3st]

LOL the Lakers and the Knicks are not in the same boat at all. They are not even in the same fukking ocean.

The Lakers despite recent trouble, will always do what's necessary to win. They are essentially the Yankees of the NBA.

so i wrote a gang of shyt and you focus on "the same boat" comment?? where am i lying when i said both teams management have made questionable decisions ?

 

[ExodusNirvana]

so i wrote a gang of shyt and you focus on "the same boat" comment?? where am i lying when i said both teams management have made questionable decisions ?

The difference is that the Lakers will undoubtedly bounce back from whatever perceived bad decsions, and still be in the mix somehow and perhaps even get deep in the playoffs.

The Knicks bad decisions are some shyt that happens and no one cares because you know why? That's all they do, its part of the organizations aura at this point.

The Knicks bad decisions are just their regular day to day operations breh. Right down to the fukking starting point guards off court life.

 

[beenz]

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They should have tried to trade Melo for 1st round picks and probably a young player. With both Bargnani and Amare on the books next year, i doubt they can improve the team enough for them to compete for a championship. Melo is 29, if he wants to play for a championship he'll have to take less money which could leave the Knicks empty-handed. with no 1st round picks next year then the future is kinda bleak
And if Melo takes the max the knicks will offer, then your team's future is fukked too.


Donnie Walsh started the rebuilding plan with a lot of young players and picks. But they threw all that away because Dolan caved under CAA pressure and couldn't wait the summer since Melo was going to sign there anyways. They also made a mistake signing Amare when doctors told him his knees could hold up for 2 years at best. What makes that signing worse is that they had the better and more durable player in Lee who they would have signed for less money than the 100m they gave Amare.

Both Lakers and Knicks franchises are in the same boat didn't think i'd ever say that shyt

Yup. Gutted the team to trade for him mid season when they could have easily waited til the offseason to sign him outright.

 

[dtownreppin214]

They are going to lose Melo, I think that shyt is in stone at this point. They own their draft pick next year, so if there's a year to tank it's then, after that they won't get a first rounder until 2017.

who has the '16 pick?

 

[I.V.]

They are going to lose Melo, I think that shyt is in stone at this point. They own their draft pick next year, so if there's a year to tank it's then, after that they won't get a first rounder until 2017.

Yeah. I mean... There are a few scenarios, and they basically start with: Melo Stays this off season, or Melo leaves this off season.

The ONLY reason he'd stay would be because he thinks he can land somewhere better in 2016.

Assuming he leaves, you stink next year - there's some talent in that draft. It's young, but it has good size.
You probably try to flip a guy like Tyson to a contender for another pick (because we've sold them all off).

That puts you in position to have a good young player, and then maybe pitch THAT plus being new york, gives you a shot at 2 major free agents. You don't really have enough picks in the near future to rebuild that way... so if you want to compete before 2018-2020 you have to sign contender-caliber players.

If Melo stays - I'd start shopping him almost immediately... BUT you now have the option of resigning him the following summer and using THAT to bring another star in... Kevin Love is the name they're floating... But you'll have a draft pick, Melo, and some cap space. Which puts you in a much better spot. You're locked into Felton and JR Smith for that following season, but not much after that. So, draft a decent player (i'd suggest a big) and #pray4collusion

 

[PTBG]

Melo could take a discount and have an average salary of $1 dollar, and the Knicks would still be way over the cap due to Bargnani, Amare, & Chandler making 10+ mill a year.