What do you think existed before the universe?

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The only thing that annoys me more than these threads is that people just laugh at the idea of actually learning this shyt about what we know but rather opt for the wikipedia SUMMARIES without doing the math or reading themselves, which is definitely complicated.

So instead, its nothing more than dudes who are just content asserting their speculation as fact without any attention to confirming what they proclaim or even trying to substantiate it.
 

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Why to religious people always say stupid shyt like this?

How do you KNOW this?

Ya'll stay talking about what we "can't" comprehend then claiming that you have a perspective as to what we can comprehend.

Makes ABSOLUTELY no sense.

Why u breh?...you should have known that this question was going to stir up stuff. The human mind bases a lot of stuff on temporal things...our senses and our experiences. How much faith does it take to believe that if you leave work that your home will still be there? very little. How much do you have that cancer will be cured tomorrow? What about 5 years from now? 25? 50? 100? Some things are unexplained or unexplainable. Even believing in science is based in part on faith. That is why if you do a DNA test on your kid, a scientist will never tell you the kid is 100% yours. But will believe that you are on the side of the 99.9% and not on the 0.01% that you are the father. Believing in the things unseen and to be revealed in the future is part of what makes human being unique and inspires us to take things further. One thing also need to know that being that my parents are African and all these things they faced, surviving a civil war, starvation, somehow getting to America and meeting each other, having me, and me even responding to you today took infinite events both small and large before and after theirs or my existence. I believe that it is fate that inspired this post. Maybe one day you will see it the same way :jawalrus:
 

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Why u breh?...you should have known that this question was going to stir up stuff. The human mind bases a lot of stuff on temporal things...our senses and our experiences.
Confirmed to a reliable degree.

How much faith does it take to believe that if you leave work that your home will still be there? very little. How much do you have that cancer will be cured tomorrow? What about 5 years from now? 25? 50? 100?
faith isn't the same as a prediction...idiot.

Some things are unexplained or unexplainable.
ACTUALLY, you can't prove things that are unexplainable...that would imply that you KNOW you can NEVER explain it.

Which isn't the case.

Even believing in science is based in part on faith.
Actually, its based on replication and isolation of effect that helps to extract some degree of objectivity...and goes from there.

We can get into the problem of induction if you want, but it won't help you.

That is why if you do a DNA test on your kid, a scientist will never tell you the kid is 100% yours.
Yet you seem to be able to conjure some bullshyt fraction or percentage of "what we know" as if you know what there is to know but then claim we don't know that.

You're overstepping your boundaries.
But will believe that you are on the side of the 99.9% and not on the 0.01% that you are the father.
What?
Believing in the things unseen and to be revealed in the future is part of what makes human being unique and inspires us to take things further.
This isn't true. Other animals are just as capable of planning and are rather sentient. Just cause they lack fingers and toes doesn't mean they're actually "stupid" or less capable of interpreting things to the degree you think they are.

Even further, believing in things without confirming is NOT a valid or legitimate way to arrive at the truth or veracity of a claim.
One thing also need to know that being that my parents are African and all these things they faced, surviving a civil war, starvation, somehow getting to America and meeting each other, having me, and me even responding to you today took infinite events both small and large before and after theirs or my existence. I believe that it is fate that inspired this post. Maybe one day you will see it the same way :jawalrus:

Your parents lived through some tumultuous times...therefore, god? How does that make ANY sense?

Would you have felt more justified or rational had they died? Cause thats what it seems like.

It makes no sense for you to equate them making it through some rough times as being evidence of a claim that your god exists or even intervenees.
 

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Confirmed to a reliable degree.

faith isn't the same as a prediction...idiot.

ACTUALLY, you can't prove things that are unexplainable...that would imply that you KNOW you can NEVER explain it.

Which isn't the case.

Actually, its based on replication and isolation of effect that helps to extract some degree of objectivity...and goes from there.

We can get into the problem of induction if you want, but it won't help you.

Yet you seem to be able to conjure some bullshyt fraction or percentage of "what we know" as if you know what there is to know but then claim we don't know that.

You're overstepping your boundaries. What? This isn't true. Other animals are just as capable of planning and are rather sentient. Just cause they lack fingers and toes doesn't mean they're actually "stupid" or less capable of interpreting things to the degree you think they are.

Even further, believing in things without confirming is NOT a valid or legitimate way to arrive at the truth or veracity of a claim.


Your parents lived through some tumultuous times...therefore, god? How does that make ANY sense?

Would you have felt more justified or rational had they died? Cause thats what it seems like.

It makes no sense for you to equate them making it through some rough times as being evidence of a claim that your god exists or even intervenees.

:heh: You are really that mad breh

Do you not understand that you will have to have faith that something will happen in the future? It takes faith in mankind that we will be able to cure cancer...do you not understand that? What is your level of faith that it will happen tomorrow? next year? 5 years? etc. That was my rational about faith because it not proven until truth is revealed breh. Scientists have faith that there are other living beings outside of our universe...but it is not true until it is proven...so even scientist exercise faith. Faith is relative to each individual and is not based on scientific probability.
 
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Sensitive Blake Griffin said:
the bubble theory sounds cool but it still doesn't explain where the material that makes up the "bubbles" comes from.

it wouldn't surprise me if the universe was on some fractal shyt, i.e. the material from our universe came from a blackhole that was spitting matter into our "universe" before the big bang. So on the "other end" of each black hole is another universe. It's an infinite regression though, it doesn't explain where the original original shyt came from, whatever that "shyt" may be.

Only problem is: Infinite regressions are impossible. If the past were 'infinite', we'd never experience a 'now' since it would take an infinite amount of time to reach it. But, we are experiencing a 'now'. Therefore, the past is finite.​
 

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The only thing that annoys me more than these threads is that people just laugh at the idea of actually learning this shyt about what we know but rather opt for the wikipedia SUMMARIES without doing the math or reading themselves, which is definitely complicated.

So instead, its nothing more than dudes who are just content asserting their speculation as fact without any attention to confirming what they proclaim or even trying to substantiate it to my standards.

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For non-religious people it's impossible to say. It's like asking what's beyond death. The answer is nothingness. But even that word is not appropriate. We define "nothing" as the absence of something, we're only capable of defining it by contrast, as an abstract notion.

If you don't believe in one religion or another it's simply impossible to conceptualize.


its called having a soul
 

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I been thinking. What do yall think existed before the formation of the earth and the universe? Do you think it was just nothingness? Religious brehs do y'all believe God always was? Was there ever a point in time nothing existed at all?

Sound off.
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the boled just killed your own question.

i wont even elaborate.
 
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