What former players get completely WRONG about today's NBA -- Thinking Basketball got the receipts

[Remote]

I noticed that none of the people who take issue with Ben Taylor's analysis made any effort to defend the horrible spacing and tactics of that Bulls/Suns game.

Go back to the 2:20 mark of the video.
Opening possession for the Bulls. Horace Grant is left with like 6 feet of space at the 3 pt line. If a PF had that kind of room in 2025, you're damn right they'd shoot a 3.

And they'd likely make it. That's easy money.

 

[knickscrusaderm]

The real problem is pimple faced cacs who never played ball a day in their life think their opinion on the game is more valid than NBA veterans and former athletes. The reason sometimes players took long twos is cause they were in rhythm and taking what the defense gave them. A non athlete wont understand that. It was natural and in the flow of the game. Most of the 3 pointers now are forced. The midrange game was always very exciting to watch. Jordans mid fade away was iconic and had every kid on the playground shouting Jordan and emulating it. Kobe came along and did that same thing. KD one of the few carrying that torch.

We literally see players now passing up on mid range shots, easy layups under the basket, and easy fast breaks with a clear lane to the rim and passing it out for a contested 3 pointer. That's not in the flow of the game and that's why folks are complaining that its hard to watch. And funny how the video complained about long twos but didn't mention long three's they take now. These guys are taking shots 2 to 3 feet beyond the 3 point line regularly. Dudes off bench are doing this. How is that more efficient? The only player that should be shooting from that far out is Curry. Instead you got guys like lamelo ball taking logo threes every game.

Your brain is totally broken and there may be a mental illness you need to be diagnosed with if you think dudes are passing up easy layups and fast breaks. You have to use your eyes to watch the game then your brain to analyze why things are happening. You loved the NBA of old because it was extremely basic offense then resulted in the same type of shots over and over. The volume of jump shots has barely changed, we just don't see skill challenged parked inside the three point line...

It was fun to watch mid range scorers score when they were on but yall act like every team had a Jordan, Kobe, McGrady. Y'all act like nikkas wasnt shooting tour dates regularly. nikka Jerry Stackhouse got MVP votes ARE YOU ABLE TO TELL ME THAT WAS GOOD TO WATCH?

 

[Everythingg]

I noticed that none of the people who take issue with Ben Taylor's analysis made any effort to defend the horrible spacing and tactics of that Bulls/Suns game.

What you should be saying is the spacing and tactics of that time are OUTDATED. But calling them horrible makes it easier to defend today's watered down game so go ahead and cook

 

[Remote]

What you should be saying is the spacing and tactics of that time are OUTDATED. But calling them horrible makes it easier to defend today's watered down game so go ahead and cook

Outdated because they were bad and there was a better way.

 

[Nigerianwonder]

Your brain is totally broken and there may be a mental illness you need to be diagnosed with if you think dudes are passing up easy layups and fast breaks. You have to use your eyes to watch the game then your brain to analyze why things are happening. You loved the NBA of old because it was extremely basic offense then resulted in the same type of shots over and over. The volume of jump shots has barely changed, we just don't see skill challenged parked inside the three point line...

It was fun to watch mid range scorers score when they were on but yall act like every team had a Jordan, Kobe, McGrady. Y'all act like nikkas wasnt shooting tour dates regularly. nikka Jerry Stackhouse got MVP votes ARE YOU ABLE TO TELL ME THAT WAS GOOD TO WATCH?

Here is a clear cut example so you can check your brain function and tell me what you see. This is the goofy modern style of play your dumbass is caping for. This only happens cause they are so focused on 3 pointers they forget the point is to just score.

 

[Art Barr]

I noticed that none of the people who take issue with Ben Taylor's analysis made any effort to defend the horrible spacing and tactics of that Bulls/Suns game.

Go back to the 2:20 mark of the video.
Opening possession for the Bulls. Horace Grant is left with like 6 feet of space at the 3 pt line. If a PF had that kind of room in 2025, you're damn right they'd shoot a 3.

And they'd likely make it. That's easy money.

Boi.

@Remote

You ain't read shyt in this thread.

I already destroyed this garbage white boi country club take and I started exactly with that clip.


If y'all don't stop skimming and pic's.

Y'all better stop the cap.


Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

What you should be saying is the spacing and tactics of that time are OUTDATED. But calling them horrible makes it easier to defend today's watered down game so go ahead and cook

That nikka skimmed everything in basketball. Just like he skimmed this thread.



Art Barr

 

[Remote]

Boi.

You ain't read shyt in this thread.

I already destroyed this garbage white boi country club take and I started exactly with that clip.


If y'all don't stop skimming and pic's.

Y'all better stop the cap.


Art Barr

No you didn't.

 

[Art Barr]

No you didn't.

I ranted rhe horace grant opening portion of this vid in this thread.

Stop skimming.


Art Barr

 

[Remote]

I ranted rhe horace grant opening portion of this vid in this thread.

Stop skimming.


Art Barr

Nobody listens to you.

 

[Art Barr]

This whole start of this video was flaw.

That his whole argument starts off as cap. From his early rants.

Plus this shyt was so flaw. I refuse to watch anymore.


As this goof.
Never talked about hand checking and being under full duress.
taking any field goal on a pro nba court.

Of course the new generation can shoot from whatever distance now. They are not being guided in the air. via hand check under full duress.
So they are not under any physical level of duress compared to the old guard.

Not to mention.
When the video first starts. He tries to cap at spacing back in the old guard at the very beginning.

When he says the spacing was taken away during a bulls fastbreak advantage. That Horace eliminates spacing because Horace never ran to the to tre ball line.
When if Horace was a tre ball shooter hypothetically.
Horace would have been in violation of simple in play theory. That if you shot a three in that scenario. The long miss would generally result in a long defensive rebound. Which would result more than likely in a fast break advantage in the other direction. Plus the mental and emotional response from making that stoopid ass decision. Could have gave the other team an emotional advantage.
that could possibly cause sweeping change to the entire complexion of the game and actual series.
No mention from this guy.

On what the response is. From a botched fast break resulting in a missed three pointer.
Then resulting in a mental unforced error into a dunk.

you would have gotten and should be benched. For even suggesting that bj. Should have directed a power forward on a fast break advantage to not go to the hole. Plus provide support. In the event of a failed high percentage shot under duress to cultivate an offensive rebound.

This guy sound like he played white boi ball from this take. That I feel if you did some goofball shyt he says is a solution. You would still be benched and never make another organized team roster.
trying to emulate this white boi country club analytic bullshyt.


Art Barr

@Remote


Stop skimming.

That same skimming shyt you did in this thread. Is the same skimming you did. When it came to understsnding the game of basketball.


Art Barr

 

[Remote]

Yeah I'm actually ignoring that post on principle now.

 

[Art Barr]

Nobody listens to you.

@Remote
Says the poster nobody gives one iota of a fukk about.

Stop the cap.

Only people not reading is overemo goofies like you. Who been corrected. Factually and numerous times in theory. To rhe point you too bytch mad.
to understand you need a higher level of braintrust and guidance.

Yo goof ass nikkaz are never was and not ever talented enough to do. For the main reason we are here. Yet you think you supposed to garner some draw. For your flawed unactualized ideas and failure face ass ideas. That are the same level as your nonchalant non existence of skills in amy pillar. Yet you think people are going to listen.
to your failure unactualized face ass. Plus you ain't never wrote a relevent review in not one subforun in this sum bytch a day in your daily life.
for over decades you were here. So stop the cap.

Nobody read you is. Stop the self deprecating deflection bullshyt wo
Ith me goofie nikka. You ain't drew a day in yo life. So stop trying to talk. Like you some headliner. When I am the headliner frfr.
While you are a fukkin never was, never gon do shyt at everything in yo huff wack ass life nikka.



Art Barr

 

[Everythingg]

Outdated because they were bad and there was a better way.

Yea this is a casual babble take.

As time goes on, the rules of every sport evolve which make certain approaches obsolete. That doesn't make them "bad" it means either the rest of the league caught up with a leading approach or the league created rules that made obsolete because the play style wasnt marketable. But I know. Acknowledging how tactics change when rules change gets in the way of the blind defense of today's watered down game where they can come down on offense and carry the ball into a triple stepback 3pter and call themselves more skilled

 

[Remote]

Yea this is a casual babble take.

As time goes on, the rules of every sport evolve which make certain approaches obsolete. That doesn't make them "bad" it means either the rest of the league caught up with a leading approach or the league created rules that made obsolete because the play style wasnt marketable. But I know. Acknowledging how tactics change when rules change gets in the way of the blind defense of today's watered down game where they can come down on offense and carry the ball into a triple stepback 3pter and call themselves more skilled

What makes the game watered down?
Watered down compared to what?