What Impact Will NBA Africa Have on FBA's Relationship to the Continent

[010101]

Rucker is infrastructure though. There’s organizers and coaches and you have to have a name to play there. It’s funded by NYC Parks and companies like Hot 97 and Nike.

Those were organized street ball tournaments with guys who were pros and kids in the pro/college pipeline.


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This is also true just like AAU. Even pro coaches, agents and shoe companies would be out there. Crazy money is pumped in rucker and AAU.

all the suits & entities represented are not there for player development

they come through to use the amateur talent as the best free promo on the planet

that money doesn't reach the players beyond the free gear they give out

it's a whole generations deep argument about how the grassroots prep scene is ruining the development of players

aau & the camps the summer tournament scene is great for the shoe companies the schools & teams the shoe companies have their hooks in & it's great entertainment for us who love hoops

it ain't about player development at all

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[havoc]

Are yall really mad about a new basketball league in Africa

The brehs there can't play ball now?

Haters wants a monopoly of a league they don't own.

 

[get these nets]

Thing is african and carribean black folks been in the NBA for over 4 decades. Normally they just grew up or were born in the states and matriculated to the NBA.

Thats why I give a side eye when the NBA pushes this international stuff. Making it seem international players are new. When their were international players even in the 80s. They just were raised here played college ball so they weren't lumped as foreigners. Such as detlef schrempf.

Hell to promote the game more international the league even claiming folks international players even when they are americans but played or where born or were in school overseas or had a relative who was not american

I mean if we going by this mark aquire and shaq are international players.

Good points
Schrempf like Duncan and Olajuwon played college ball in America.
Dirk , and Giannis are international players in the truest sense. Played for Euro teams and got drafted into the league

Now that NCAA is not the sole feeder system for the league, it makes sense for them to create another minor league system to develop talent.

* I just brought up Tim Duncan & Dream to hear what the juelz was going to be. hehehehehe

You're right about foreign born and immigrant descent players having been in the league for decades. The league made a false big deal about the first "Latin" player years ago. And they overlooked guys like Carlos Herrera who played for the Rockets, from Venezuela

and Rolando Blackmon
before that

from Suntanama Panama

I forget who the player was using to market to Latinos, as the first Latino NBA player, but even back then I was like "Come on, ese"

 

[HarlemHottie]

Rucker is infrastructure though. There’s organizers and coaches and you have to have a name to play there. It’s funded by NYC Parks and companies like Hot 97 and Nike.

all the suits & entities represented are not there for player development

they come through to use the amateur talent as the best free promo on the planet

This. The Rucker was started by black man who just so happened to work for the parks dept and see the need. NYC didn't fund him. It wasn't even in its current location. They jumped on a pre existing wave after apparently ignoring it for damn near a quarter century.

Rucker, who grew up in Manhattan, started the tournament in 1950 at a playground on 7th Avenue between 128th and 129th streets.

In 1974 the city renamed P.S. 156 Playground, located at 155th Street and Frederick Douglass Boulevard, as Holcombe Rucker Playground in dedication to his community efforts. Rucker's basketball tournament had moved there in 1965...

The players in the Rucker Tournament featured slam dunks, crossover dribbles, and bravado that excited the crowd, a playing style then foreign to the National Basketball Association (NBA).[3]

Rucker Park - Wikipedia
Holcombe Rucker - Wikipedia


How a coach gon teach something he don't know?

 

[ISO]

all the suits & entities represented are not there for player development

they come through to use the amateur talent as the best free promo on the planet

that money doesn't reach the players beyond the free gear they give out

it's a whole generations deep argument about how the grassroots prep scene is ruining the development of players

aau & the camps the summer tournament scene is great for the shoe companies the schools & teams the shoe companies have their hooks in & it's great entertainment for us who love hoops

it ain't about player development at all

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I don’t agree with those arguments is mostly haters and old heads with slight undertones of European skill development being so much better I don’t buy it.

 

[010101]

I don’t agree with those arguments is mostly haters and old heads with slight undertones of European skill development being so much better I don’t buy it.

if they want to thrive in the d1 elite level & the pros that's the style they gotta learn

the league is the league

that rambo 1v5 clear it out isolation shyte they ain't jacking that too tough

you get maybe one nikka per squad who got that type of bag & even then they be on the short leash

nikka you know i love that blacktop shyte bad bad bad

but for cats who want to succeed professionally they have to develop in that particular style

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[HarlemHottie]

I wouldn’t say any of these sports has been completely reinvented by these groups like NBA or Boxing with ADOS but the influence has been profound, and it’s a growing one, Usain Bolt and the Jamaicans for example have taken sprinting to new heights, Black and Multiracial Brazilians have provided Soccer with the most flair and best players, UFC is facing a emergence of West African fighters who represent the top of a majority white sport and so on.

And thats all im saying. Its dope that the diaspora out here showing they ass. Congratulations, and many more.

But coloring within the lines the best ain't what we talking about. Its not the same.

Their approach to the game is directly opposite to the European emphasis on efficiency and results, which robs the game of its skill most times.

Explain further, if you don't mind. This is the answer i was looking for, i think.

 

[Jblaze204]

We didn't just play basketball like the jews who played in the early professional leagues, we started breaking ankles and dunking on nikkas.

 

[get these nets]

I don’t agree with those arguments is mostly haters and old heads with slight undertones of European skill development being so much better I don’t buy it.

The NCAA Division 1 being the best developer for NBA talent became less of a reality after this draft class.

not pictured is Iverson
Kobe and Jermaine were in high school, Shareef/ Marbury were freshmen, AI was a sophomore during the draft.
That exodus of talent began the downfall of the NCAA being the best development system for players.

 

[ISO]

This. The Rucker was started by black man who just so happened to work for the parks dept and see the need. NYC didn't fund him. It wasn't even in its current location. They jumped on a pre existing wave after apparently ignoring it for damn near a quarter century.

Rucker, who grew up in Manhattan, started the tournament in 1950 at a playground on 7th Avenue between 128th and 129th streets.

In 1974 the city renamed P.S. 156 Playground, located at 155th Street and Frederick Douglass Boulevard, as Holcombe Rucker Playground in dedication to his community efforts. Rucker's basketball tournament had moved there in 1965...

The players in the Rucker Tournament featured slam dunks, crossover dribbles, and bravado that excited the crowd, a playing style then foreign to the National Basketball Association (NBA).[3]

Rucker Park - Wikipedia
Holcombe Rucker - Wikipedia


How a coach gon teach something he don't know?

Got you my fault we talking about two different things.

I was talking infrastructure and pipeline in more modern times you talking about the redevelopment of the game with black players. From Mikan drill ball and Bob Cousy one hand dribbling to Dr. J high flying and Tiny Archibald speed and crossovers.

 

[3rdWorld]

Africans care for basketball about as much as Black Americans care for soccer..

 

[ISO]

ehh not really

Giannis, Luka, Khawi, Embiid,Jokic, Gobert, Simmons, Kahwi (grandfather South African)

The world is catching up to the NBA.

Kawhi grandfather is not South African he was trolling Ibaka with that

The globalization of the game has most hurt American cacs and they’ve been almost phased out

 

[Originalman]

Good points
Schrempf like Duncan and Olajuwon played college ball in America.
Dirk , and Giannis are international players in the truest sense. Played for Euro teams and got drafted into the league

Now that NCAA is not the sole feeder system for the league, it makes sense for them to create another minor league system to develop talent.

* I just brought up Tim Duncan & Dream to hear what the juelz was going to be. hehehehehe

You're right about foreign born and immigrant descent players having been in the league for decades. The league made a false big deal about the first "Latin" player years ago. And they overlooked guys like Carlos Herrera who played for the Rockets, from Venezuela

and Rolando Blackmon
before that

from Suntanama Panama

I forget who the player was using to market to Latinos, as the first Latino NBA player, but even back then I was like "Come on, ese"

Yep I am glad you brought up rolando blackman and carlos herrera I watched both of them play as a kid and it was never brought up that they were latin. Just that they were regular black players. Only until the NBA started to go global did they start pushing the non black international players.

Speaking of international black players from latin america who matriculated to the NBA from american ball to the pros. Amazing how Mr. Felipe Lopez being an international player was never discussed that much even though he was hyped. Cause being an international player (specifically a black one) wasn't hyped up then.

And as you know being out east. This kat in the 90s was one of the most hyped up players in high school and going to college.

 

[Originalman]

The NCAA Division 1 being the best developer for NBA talent became less of a reality after this draft class.

not pictured is Iverson
Kobe and Jermaine were in high school, Shareef/ Marbury were freshmen, AI was a sophomore during the draft.
That exodus of talent began the downfall of the NCAA being the best development system for players.

IMO when Kobe and Garnett said F college we going straight to the pros and became stars. And once the league put in the rookie salary scale because they didn't want to pay another big dog glen robinson 100 mill on a rookie deal. College game was fukked.

Them kids and they parents said we either going straight to the pros or we playing as few years as possible in college. Cause the goal was get on that rookie deal quick at a young age. So you could be off that hoe at 23 and start signing max contracts and if you was lucky you could get you 2 or 3 max contracts before you retired.

 

[ISO]

Yep I am glad you brought up rolando blackman and carlos herrera I watched both of them play as a kid and it was never brought up that they were latin. Just that they were regular black players. Only until the NBA started to go global did they start pushing the non black international players.

Speaking of international black players from latin america who matriculated to the NBA from american ball to the pros. Amazing how Mr. Felipe Lopez being an international player was never discussed that much even though he was hyped. Cause being an international player (specifically a black one) wasn't hyped up then.

And as you know being out east. This kat in the 90s was one of the most hyped up players in high school and going to college.

U also had players like Butch Lee, Mark Aguirre, Tito Horford (Al Horford pops) that were not marketed like that probably because they were black.