What is Black British culture?

[JayGatsby]

black american culture have ruined all black culture's around the world

you nikkas and your dusty"ratchet " ways

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

I know there was more than rap breh I used rap because it has permeated a lot more than soul or funk ever did. Back then there was still a lot of ethnic and tribal music stylings now a lot of the music is derivative or American or Caribbean genres...

Soul and Funk made the bed for High Life AND roots reggae.
There are no caribbean genres without AA music. It's not separate or shared, it's a masked derivative propped up by pride, weed consumption, and sex tourism.
Way less dynamic and mutagenic.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

black american culture has ruined all black culture's around the world

you nikkas and your dusty"ratchet " ways

Jordan in your avatar, the word "dusty" and coming from the THIRD WORLD where cacs can fukk kids and cops tirn a blind eye.
What is "ratchet" in comparison to intermittent electric power, poor waste management, and shyt like cholera being a factor in your lives?
Stop it.
You're either caribbean or african, because that original AA "core" of 19th century black brits is probably long gone.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

This is all destroyed by FELA KUTI. And the afram influence on early afrobeats

NO it's not you can't be serious... Fela is one artist and afrobeats 1 sound it was a west African phenomenon... Africa is a huge place . When Fela was around you didn't have African music sounding as similar as it does now.. shyt would change drastically within a country just going to a different region. You have African old heads from the Fela Era who never heard his music. If you gonna claim influence on early Afro beat then It's like a Mali breh saying he got some credits for Blues. I don't claim AA music that has West African influences is from West Africa... some of these music stylings were evolved and progressed a lot further removed from their influences that they have their own Roots even with a lineage that can be traced elsewhere. The cross influence between West African and Latin music was also major. That doesn't make Latin music West African. Just like you can't take credit for Reggae while simultaneously discrediting the Dancehall rap influence. It doesn't work.

Brehs need to be honest and give props where it is due rather than just chest thumping.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

Popular british black culture is a mixture of imported jamaican culture and appropriated/imported afram culture (even the british whites jack heavily from black america...see british invasion)). More recently you've had a more direct continental african influnce through afrobeatz.

Pray tell, what are the influence ingredients in regards to afrobeats and jamaican music in general?
How did these genres develop? Surely not out of thin air.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Lol carribean been in btitain 70+ plus years.

And they culture diff from afro americans.

They bite a few things but its diff

They bit more than a few things. There pretty much is no modern black british pop culture if one was to remove the afram cultural foundation that black brit pop was built on and leeched from during the the 1960's to present

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

NO it's not you can't be serious... Fela is one artist and afrobeats 1 sound it was a west African phenomenon... Africa is a huge place . When Fela was around you didn't have African music sounding as similar as it does now.. shyt would change drastically within a country just going to a different region. You have African old heads from the Fela Era who never heard his music. If you gonna claim influence on early Afro beat then It's like a Mali breh saying he got some credits for Blues. I don't claim AA music that has West African influences is from West Africa... some of these music stylings were evolved and progressed a lot further removed from their influences that they have their own Roots even with a lineage that can be traced elsewhere. The cross influence between West African and Latin music was also major. That doesn't make Latin music West African. Just like you can't take credit for Reggae while simultaneously discrediting the Dancehall rap influence. It doesn't work.

Brehs need to be honest and give props where it is due rather than just chest thumping.

Afrobeats and High life is derived from AA music.

100%.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Soul and Funk made the bed for High Life AND roots reggae.
There are no caribbean genres without AA music. It's not separate or shared, it's a masked derivative propped up by pride, weed consumption, and sex tourism.
Way less dynamic and mutagenic.

But AA's claiming reggae is like Jamaicans claiming Rap. Those music genres has lineages you can trace back n forth but that doesn't make them non Jamaican or non American. Like I said above that's about as accurate as a Mali breh claiming the delta blues.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

PS: there is no "clave", that's called HAMBONE or PATTIN JUBA.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Afrobeats and High life is derived from AA music.

100%.

yes and that's a microcosm of African music in that era. Back then most people were still steeped in a lot of ethnic style music. type of shyt you would hear in a world music compilation back in the day... region to region it was not the same. Fela and the West was heavily Western influenced not the whole continent.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

But AA's claiming reggae is like Jamaicans claiming Rap. Those music genres has lineages you can trace back n forth but that doesn't make them non Jamaican or non American. Like I said above that's about as accurate as a Mali breh claiming the delta blues.

We're not.
The ingredients were DIRECT, the jamaican originators took flights, bought records, heard "jive talk" and derived "toasting" from that.
This is backlash from the kool herc myth.
Hip hop is not shared AND we played a part in creating the music liars said contributed to hip hop.
No Rock, no ROCKsteady.
No SOUL, DOO WOP, no ska.
No R&B, no reggae.
The reverse doesn't apply.

 

[315]

yes

nvm

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

Malian Sahel music and Delta Blues are 500 years apart.
AA music and Reggae + derivatives?
AA music set the pace and Jamaican music adjusted to it after being MOLDED by it

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

We're not.
The ingredients were DIRECT, the jamaican originators took flights, bought records, heard "jive talk" and derived "toasting" from that.
This is backlash from the kool herc myth.
Hip hop is not shared AND we played a part in creating the music liars said contributed to hip hop.
No Rock, no ROCKsteady.
No SOUL, DOO WOP, no ska.
No R&B, no reggae.
The reverse doesn't apply.

this is where we always disagree... you won't give Ja brehs their props
it was AA brehs that told us of hip hop's Jamaican influence not Jamaican brehs so that story got written into the books. I never knew there was an issue with that origin story up until recently.

As far as the influence on reggae and dancehall I can 100% say Jamaicans can claim their products just like y'all can even with traces of other lineage. It is unique enough to stand alone. Just like AA music is not African.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

nvm

kunta, oldhead that's me.