What is Black British culture?

[AuntAnniesPretzels]

black american culture have ruined all black culture's around the world

you nikkas and your dusty"ratchet " ways

Then why the fukk are you on a hip hop forum then?

 

[CashmereThoughts]

I want all the black culture I can get and I DGAF what tribe it comes from.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Your culture is all over the world now but so is Jamaicas if you are talking about the most influential in the diaspora amongst other Blacks and the world. Jamaicans are major. AA influence in Africa has only in recent decades become as big as Jamaican influence has been.

afram influence in/on africa is far older than anything jamaican and has been there since the 1800's

I don't know why brehs discredit that. African brehs was making reggae way long before they tried to rap

africans were doing jazz, soul and funk before they ever did reggae

and current waves of music are more heavily influenced by Jamaica outside South Africas house movement. The same was true fashion wise for a long time. So I wouldn't say Jamaicans are jealous of Americans or want their spot they are the primary influencers of Black Brits again up until relatively recently.

afram influence in african music and fashion all before reggae and dancell

Pantsula is a syncopated, quick-stepping, low to the ground form of dance which evokes the urban street culture of which it is a part. It is performed by groups of dancers who practice together for many hours each week. It provides a powerful, stylized form of expression for those who dance it. As one pantsula dancer describes it “we have drive, we are one, we have power, we are young, strong and quick, we have our own style and we are competitive.”[1] For pantsula, the group is very important to the dance.

It developed from the Sotho dances Mqaquanga and Marabi with influence by 1930's American jazz.[3] Later evolutions of pantsula dancing in the 1980s were influenced by American hiphop and breakdance.[2] Quick, darting steps in geometric lines with an uneven rhythmic quality characterize this form of movement. The Charleston, a knock-kneed manoeuvre from American jazz, as well as popping and locking found in American hiphop are also found in this form of dance. The word itself, pantsula, is Zulu and refers to “waddling like a duck.” This flat-footed move with buttocks sticking out behind the body is commonplace in the dance form.[4]

Pantsula is divided into three distinct styles: Western Style, Slow Poison, and Futhuza. Western Style is the most typically found form, and it is highly rigorous. Arms remain wrapped around an upright torso while the feet move in extremely fast and particular shuffling and jumping movements as groups of dancers move in and out of geometric formations. This form requires good physical command of the body. Slow Poison is like Western style in form—mostly stationary arms with intricate lower body movements but it is performed in a slow, steady fashion with a constant beat. Futhuza is infused with elements of American breakdancing and hiphop. This form utilizes the somewhat disjointed, sometimes fluid, robotic motion of popping and locking

Pantsula - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

or Highlife out of West Africa

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If you listen to African (Afro-Pop) popular music through the years it makes it easier to see just exactly what type of music they were listening to because it reflects in their music. There are many compilations out with the sounds they were making in the respective time periods

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

this is where we always disagree... you won't give Ja brehs their props
it was AA brehs that told us of hip hop's Jamaican influence not Jamaican brehs so that story got written into the books. I never knew there was an issue with that origin story up until recently.

As far as the influence on reggae and dancehall I can 100% say Jamaicans can claim their products just like y'all can even with traces of other lineage. It is unique enough to stand alone. Just like AA music is not African.

How is it unique enough to stand on it's own when it's literally a branch off but far less bpm and instrument diverse?
Putting an accent on something and freezing it in place isn't unique.
No, the Caribbean brehs in early 80s hip hop were more cac and camera friendly, the lil jamaica bullshyt made for an interesting story, and the REAL pioneers were too busy actually being Black Spades and/or partying.
Plus: the children of southern black folk didn't trust media as much as people unfamiliar with cac treachery.
Their presence was OVERSPOKEN.
AA influence on Reggae is UNDERSTATED.
The truth is: you can't compare the tiny to the colossal.
We gave them styles to run with.

 

[315]

kunta, oldhead that's me.

Yea Karbaash joined later that's why I edited

 

[IllmaticDelta]

yes and that's a microcosm of African music in that era. Back then most people were still steeped in a lot of ethnic style music. type of shyt you would hear in a world music compilation back in the day... region to region it was not the same. Fela and the West was heavily Western influenced not the whole continent.

the whole continent was western influenced from the 1920's to now through recordings

 

[IllmaticDelta]

But AA's claiming reggae is like Jamaicans claiming Rap. Those music genres has lineages you can trace back n forth but that doesn't make them non Jamaican or non American. Like I said above that's about as accurate as a Mali breh claiming the delta blues.

na because there are things in afram music that sound exactly like rap from the 1920's while there was nothing in jamaica that sounded like reggae before they started imitating american soul music in the 1960's

 

[JayGatsby]

Jordan in your avatar, the word "dusty" and coming from the THIRD WORLD where cacs can fukk kids and cops tirn a blind eye.
What is "ratchet" in comparison to intermittent electric power, poor waste management, and shyt like cholera being a factor in your lives?
Stop it.
You're either caribbean or african, because that original AA "core" of 19th century black brits is probably long gone.

according to you guys

jordan doesn't like nikkas,so I stand corrected

 

[JayGatsby]

Then why the fukk are you on a hip hop forum then?

its not a hip hop forum

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

afram influence in/on africa is far older than anything jamaican and has been there since the 1800's



africans were doing jazz, soul and funk before they ever did reggae




afram influence in african music and fashion all before reggae and dancell











Pantsula - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

or Highlife out of West Africa

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If you listen to African (Afro-Pop) popular music through the years it makes it easier to see just exactly what type of music they were listening to because it reflects in their music. There are many compilations out with the sounds they were making in the respective time periods

And the average African didn't have access to this which is what I'm telling y'all these would have been city folk who are NOT the majority. These influences never permeated the way reggae did. they were early in a time of less resources so you had the city folk on point but majority of people were rural and they were jamming to whatever ethnic music was from their area. There's a lot of Africans that never heard any of the above more than did. I know more fela fans in the west than Africa more fans of Ethiopian Jazz in the west than Africa. Have you ever heard a world beat compilation.. rural ethnic sounds from tribe to tribe. That was the wave. Not everyone had a radio or went to the dancehall etc... By the time all these things become more common we are already in the 80's. If look up a lot of these African people making western influenced music a lot of them had travelled or been educated outside Africa and brought that back home with them. They were not your average individual. The music itself had a class divide system.

 

[GPBear]

You don't like to be proven wrong do you?

Ya stupid fukkin American imbecile.

Proven wrong how, he tried to claim an American corporation as UK culture

Which was exactly my point, that the UK culture is to jack the Americans and then pretend they invented it.

Dumbass troll

 

[AuntAnniesPretzels]

its not a hip hop forum

Yes it is. It’s literally in the headline “Sports, Hip Hop and Piff”

We’ll stop ruining the diaspora with our ratchet culture when you stop making the diaspora the laughing stock of the world with your overall incompetence and lack of backbone and pride

 

[010101]

aa gang is welcoming aa gang shares aa gang enjoys & supports piff from the diaspora we love culture

but you gotta know how it goes when you try to flex for no reason

let it be all love cause it's no comparisons to be made & no competition to be had

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[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

the whole continent was western influenced from the 1920's to now through recordings

Absolutely not. 1920? nah fam African in 1920 are 99% on tribal music. They weren't even rocking with sounds from other tribes in their vicinity. the amount of people who would have had access would be tiny. My grandparents generation was very closely tied to their foundations and their kids come in the 50's and 60's they are the first to gain more access because they are going to western style schools and traveling to major cities

this is like saying All AA's were jamming to rap in 79

 

[MarrieGotBandzzz]

Wrong as well.
Louisiana Creole food?
SC Low Country?
Memphis, NC, Texas BBQ?
"Slave food"
Ain't you one of those papiamento dutch suriname nikkas?

Boy gtfo and be glad one of us even heard of y'all.

shyt did not came from the motherland straight up bullshyt food

Bbq aint no real food
Gumbo ???Just some stuff put together fukk outta here