What is Black British culture?

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Yeah I dont know the extent of the “beef” but Nigerians seemed like they were too recent to The UK to have contributed much to the foundation of the culture their.

Nigerians were probably in Britain in the 1960s but jamaicans always had the bigger population.

From what I saw it seemed African Immigrants were more so the black infulencers in Paris (probably due to the sheer number of french speaking African nations).

yup...exactly
 

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They have an interesting dynamic because black people overall make up such a tiny number of the overall population there but the “native black brit” (the original wave of black folks from pre 1900s) population (from what I have seen) seems to be damn near non existent.

From what I see it seems culturally the island folks/people with that ancestry shaped the culture there and everyone else simply adds on.

I think Jamaicans and Nigerians make up the bulk of the ancestry there but the Jamaicans seem like they are the foundation (I assume they immigrated there earlier).

Yeah black british "culture" draws like 80% of its culture from Jamaica specifically, not really the other islands.

Islanders have been here since the windrush in the 40's so their culture is a bit more ingrained in English society than African.
 

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Do Carribean and African Brits beef

When the first generation of africans arrived, they could not really integrate with islanders that had already been here for decades before.

This was more due to cultural barriers tho, like Africans being able to speak in different languages.There was definitely ignorance on both ends. My grandmother was part of the windrush generation who came over from Barbados and she lowkey disliked africans despite having four kids with my Ghanaian grandfather :snoop:


Shyt is more merged and harmonious now tho with the second/third generation.
 

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Nigerians were probably in Britain in the 1960s but jamaicans always had the bigger population.



yup...exactly

Jamaicans had to have been in Britain pre 1900 right? Or were they part of a recent immigration phase? I could have swore there were populations of black people from places like Canada and Sierre Leone and other places (plus I think actual british slaves) that would be who were defined as “Black Brits”? I could be totally off.
 

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When the first generation of africans arrived, they could not really integrate with islanders that had already been here for decades before.

This was more due to cultural barriers tho, like Africans being able to speak in different languages.There was definitely ignorance on both ends. My grandmother was part of the windrush generation who came over from Barbados and she lowkey disliked africans despite having four kids with my Ghanaian grandfather :snoop:


Shyt is more merged and harmonious now tho with the second/third generation.

Thats funny because elswhere from what I saw folks from the Island get along good with Africans.
 

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Yeah black british "culture" draws like 80% of its culture from Jamaica specifically, not really the other islands.

Islanders have been here since the windrush in the 40's so their culture is a bit more ingrained in English society than African.

Outside of Nigerians and Jamaicans I honestly dont even know any other population of blacks that immigrate heavily there.
 

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Thats funny because elswhere from what I saw folks from the Island get along good with Africans.

Yeah they were probably talking about the current generation because there was definitely abit of friction between the two communities in the 80's and 90's.
 

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Outside of Nigerians and Jamaicans I honestly dont even know any other population of blacks that immigrate heavily there.

Lol they are just the two most prominent and populous countries in their respective regions so it may seem that way. When you think caribbean music you think jamaican, when you think african music you think nigerian.

But people from african and caribbean countries that were former english colonies and and part of the commonwealth are well represented here.

Barbados, st lucia, ghana, etc.

Even quite a bit of francophone africans like the congolese here.
 

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Jamaicans had to have been in Britain pre 1900 right? Or were they part of a recent immigration phase? I could have swore there were populations of black people from places like Canada and Sierre Leone and other places (plus I think actual british slaves) that would be who were defined as “Black Brits”? I could be totally off.

technically, yes but with other africans and even aframs

Black Poor and White Philanthropists: Sierra Leone - Andrea Gibbons

Committee for the Relief of the Black Poor - Wikipedia
 

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Lol they are just the two most prominent and populous countries in their respective regions so it may seem that way. When you think caribbean music you think jamaican, when you think african music you think nigerian.

But people from african and caribbean countries that were former english colonies and and part of the commonwealth are well represented here.

Barbados, st lucia, ghana, etc.

Even quite a bit of francophone africans like the congolese here.

I assume they arent populus enough to have their own neighborhoods like Nigerians and Jamicans?
 

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I assume they arent populus enough to have their own neighborhoods like Nigerians and Jamicans?

lol they dont have their own neighbourhoods. There are areas like brixton and peckham that have a higher concentration of the two, but they are still not the dominant ethnic groups in these areas.

London is not that segregated like that.
 

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lol they dont have their own neighbourhoods. There are areas like brixton and peckham that have a higher concentration of the two, but they are still not the dominant ethnic groups in these areas.

London is not that segregated like that.

Gotcha. I was there for a day a few weeks ago which wasnt enough time to get a good feel.
 

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I said to my mum yesterday, “what’s Black-British culture?” She said, “What? We don’t have one. England is an import country.”

She’s 60 next year.

I believe every word you say about Angolans. He’s not the first I’ve met that bragged about his colonised heritage either; it just flummoxes me that the people who do it are always darkskinned. One of my best friends in school looked exactly like Rihanna and she was Angolan; she’d get mad as shyt when people told her she’s too pretty to be African.

The dude said to me, “I’m figuring you’ve got some slave surname” then proceeded to tell me his European name with pride like he got his through choice.

“Luis Fernandez Swarez C00nez” or whatever. He was bragging about his family having links to crooked politicians over there & praising white Jesus for his daughter having a European surname as well. “At least she ain’t got some long West African name. Their name’s don’t carry pride like ours.”

I almost fell out my chair.

He wasnt raised in The UK either so I can’t even say “England rubbed off on him.”

That’s fukking disgusting :scust: His ass would be cut off right then and there.
 
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