What Is The End Game For African Americans And African Diapora Nations?

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Their economies are not heavily dependent on natural resources therefore minimally affected by global commodity prices meaning these countries are forced to develop industries that can still thrive despite international price of commodities such as oil etc...

Ethiopia discovered a lot of natural gas in the Somali region. Ghana, seems to have learned its lesson from relying too much on future oil revenue from its offshore facilities.

 

[T'challa]

Ivory Coast, Kenya, Ghana, Senegal, Ethiopia for now.

What I meant is, what's your "wish" if I put it that way, based on the options in the polls?

Avoid thinking about how it's going to be done or the obstacles involved. Just say what you want as the endgame.

 

[T'challa]

My thing about the Native Americans is it would never work.

1. America did that in a different time and it's so little of them
2. I couldn't give you 25 leaders I'd trust to run it--and from what I know, those reservations are run horrriibbbllly.

With a criteria I'd make; Obama wouldn't; foreign born father (regardless of where) and a white mother. And he's already gotten a lot of benefits put to the side for black kids as he was growing up. Obama's mom and grandparents were not poor.

But, I agree with Malcolm X; reparations should never been left up to a vote or a partisan politics.

But, the USA doesn't respect shyt internationally, unless we owe them money.

But, I plan on doing whatever little things I can. I'll never live to see it. But, that's not the point.

But, I also think places like Haiti and the Caribbeans deserves reparations from France and England. My issue is; in this country, they owe us. But, I'll never make it seem other folk in the diaspora didn't suffer.

:scusttchalla:If we really wanted to go there, some African nations owe us for selling the "product."

I see reparations treated as an individual issue not a proxy one which would involve a "leader". You'll be paid in full personally.

For the bolded let's go there breh


A third of all trades came from the bight of Biafra. So we are in this too.

Here's what I believe we be pushing for when we Biafrans get free :

A ministry of Reparations with representation in the embassies of Biafra over in the countries where all TAS trade displaced Biafrans can be found


Trace all descendants using slavery records and DNA (massive Biafran DNA sampling program first to make sure we have high accuracy matches)

Set up a fund to be paid out to displaced Biafrans for at most over 100 years managed by the ministry

Issue a personal letter of apology to each individual personalized from the traditional rulers within Biafra

Identify (even if it will be challenging) families that took part in the evil and make them issue personal sections in the apology

Have a cultural reintegration program organized for TAS trade displaced Biafrans

Carry out comprehensive burial rights from the middle passage to final destinations

Offer nationality (different from citizenship which anyone can obtain) to them.

The interesting thing is that at the time of abduction, the records show Bight of Biafra. At the moment we've been taken off the map. its only when we're free that displaced Biafrans can begin to have proper identification again. the Africa you left is not what's here now. its been usurped by the same culprit - Britain.


I can only hope other African nations involved would follow suit. We will work to ensure the AU or its replacement includes these in their statutes

 

[Easy-E]

@T'challa that's dope

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

I see reparations treated as an individual issue not a proxy one which would involve a "leader". You'll be paid in full personally.

For the bolded let's go there breh


A third of all trades came from the bight of Biafra. So we are in this too.

Here's what I believe we be pushing for when we Biafrans get free :

A ministry of Reparations with representation in the embassies of Biafra over in the countries where all TAS trade displaced Biafrans can be found


Trace all descendants using slavery records and DNA (massive Biafran DNA sampling program first to make sure we have high accuracy matches)

Set up a fund to be paid out to displaced Biafrans for at most over 100 years managed by the ministry

Issue a personal letter of apology to each individual personalized from the traditional rulers within Biafra

Identify (even if it will be challenging) families that took part in the evil and make them issue personal sections in the apology

Have a cultural reintegration program organized for TAS trade displaced Biafrans

Carry out comprehensive burial rights from the middle passage to final destinations

Offer nationality (different from citizenship which anyone can obtain) to them.

The interesting thing is that at the time of abduction, the records show Bight of Biafra. At the moment we've been taken off the map. its only when we're free that displaced Biafrans can begin to have proper identification again. the Africa you left is not what's here now. its been usurped by the same culprit - Britain.


I can only hope other African nations involved would follow suit. We will work to ensure the AU or its replacement includes these in their statutes

I don't think a Biafran state should offer reparations to members of the African diaspora for a few reasons...

 

[T'challa]

I don't think a Biafran state should offer reparations to members of the African diaspora for a few reasons...

Nwanne m, what's your take?

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Nwanne m, what's your take?

1. The Biafran state is not legally liable. Igbos sold Igbos, or were kidnapped by Kalabaris and Ijaws. Moreover, you could be a sold the week after you sold someone else. It was a societal breakdown/tragedy. This is unlike say France, a state party which did play a direct role. Biafra didn’t exist back then as a sovereign state.
2. It would bankrupt us at the beginning of our nationhood
3. We should offer a Right of Return to AfAms, Jamaicans, Haitians, Bajans, Antiguans etc. instead.

 

[T'challa]

1. The Biafran state is not legally liable. Igbos sold Igbos, or were kidnapped by Kalabaris and Ijaws. Moreover, you could be a sold the week after you sold someone else. It was a societal breakdown/tragedy. This is unlike say France, a state party which did play a direct role. Biafra didn’t exist back then as a sovereign state.
2. It would bankrupt us at the beginning of our nationhood
3. We should offer a Right of Return to AfAms, Jamaicans, Haitians, Bajans, Antiguans etc. instead.

A lot of ethinicities were sold off not only Ndi'gbo
Whatever we (Biafrans and displaced Biafrans) arrive at as the final amount will constitute a portion (for e.g. 10% or 20%) of the financial reparations. The main culprits, when the time comes, will pay up the rest. But it is important we set the precedent for that. Our freedom will mean we will be in prime position for that. I see it more as an opportunity.

We have to understand that these are our blood, not just the amorphous term "Africans"; these are displaced Biafrans. They have our blood running in them.

Paying reparations will set a precedent for the cost of selling out and instill a sense of high morality among ourselves. This sellout madness has to stop. The greatest obstacle to the Biafra freedom today is not outsiders but among us Biafrans because we have not properly punished those who sold us out from slavery to the current British imposed Nigeria. Instead we praised them and offered them a free pass on a whim. We have suffered a lot but our people have been used as the primary instrument of our suffering. We have to purify ourselves from these evils and call it for what is it and also take responsibility. We cannot just shriek it.

Spiritually, we are even complaining today saying that we have not laid to rest properly, those who perished in the Nigerian invasion of our lands. We have tried to perform the cleansing rights but not quite to the level of satisfaction. Mazi Nnamdi Kanu will say that Biafra is a spirit; I hope you are aware of rites some family members of the Biafrans deceased during the war had to perform just to stop them from running mad. We have even been doing atonement since 2014 to ask Chiukwu Okike for forgiveness especially for selling our kith and kin into. Check Mazi Nnamdi Kanu's broadcasts, he mentioned it. Our truth is blatant and unbending, we don't make any excuses or offer another version. If we highly esteem our own, others will fear to touch them, if we don't they'll become the punching bags of others. This is one of the reason Nigeria is completely useless.

The Jews prosecuted even members of their own that aided the nazis in committing crimes to their own. I hope you know that no Biafran saboteurs - ohaneze, SE governors, those that fought on the Nigeria side during the genocide war will go scot free.


Meeting with displaced Biafrans to set out the modalities is even better than them sitting with whites first since the terms have a higher chance of being grossly skewed. Whatever we agree among ourselves the whites will have to follow.

We Biafrans are going to claim our compensation from Britain for (1) Disruptions to our way of life due to slave trade (other European nations involved too) (2) Colonialism (3) Imposing Nigeria on us (4) Biafran Genocide (USSR is included here too). The Western companies also will pay compensation for polluting the Niger Delta. Nobody is going free.

We are also going to get compensation from Nigeria for the Biafran Genocide including trial and prosecution of war criminals dead or alive.

If we demand equity, we have to come with clean hands too. Our struggle is in various phases and freedom is just the start. We will complete all these even if it takes the next 500 years.

As for the issue of bankruptcy, Biafra will be the wealthiest nation on earth bar none and that has nothing to do with natural resources. Our economy will be different from what has ever existed in the world; every Biafran will be worth at least a mill dollars. This is the Biafra I'm fighting for not a shaky country like Nigeria.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

A lot of ethinicities were sold off not only Ndi'gbo
Whatever we (Biafrans and displaced Biafrans) arrive at as the final amount will constitute a portion (for e.g. 10% or 20%) of the financial reparations. The main culprits, when the time comes, will pay up the rest. But it is important we set the precedent for that. Our freedom will mean we will be in prime position for that. I see it more as an opportunity.

We have to understand that these are our blood, not just the amorphous term "Africans"; these are displaced Biafrans. They have our blood running in them.

Paying reparations will set a precedent for the cost of selling out and instill a sense of high morality among ourselves. This sellout madness has to stop. The greatest obstacle to the Biafra freedom today is not outsiders but among us Biafrans because we have not properly punished those who sold us out from slavery to the current British imposed Nigeria. Instead we praised them and offered them a free pass on a whim. We have suffered a lot but our people have been used as the primary instrument of our suffering. We have to purify ourselves from these evils and call it for what is it and also take responsibility. We cannot just shriek it.

Spiritually, we are even complaining today saying that we have not laid to rest properly, those who perished in the Nigerian invasion of our lands. We have tried to perform the cleansing rights but not quite to the level of satisfaction. Mazi Nnamdi Kanu will say that Biafra is a spirit; I hope you are aware of rites some family members of the Biafrans deceased during the war had to perform just to stop them from running mad. We have even been doing atonement since 2014 to ask Chiukwu Okike for forgiveness especially for selling our kith and kin into. Check Mazi Nnamdi Kanu's broadcasts, he mentioned it. Our truth is blatant and unbending, we don't make any excuses or offer another version. If we highly esteem our own, others will fear to touch them, if we don't they'll become the punching bags of others. This is one of the reason Nigeria is completely useless.

The Jews prosecuted even members of their own that aided the nazis in committing crimes to their own. I hope you know that no Biafran saboteurs - ohaneze, SE governors, those that fought on the Nigeria side during the genocide war will go scot free.


Meeting with displaced Biafrans to set out the modalities is even better than them sitting with whites first since the terms have a higher chance of being grossly skewed. Whatever we agree among ourselves the whites will have to follow.

We Biafrans are going to claim our compensation from Britain for (1) Disruptions to our way of life due to slave trade (other European nations involved too) (2) Colonialism (3) Imposing Nigeria on us (4) Biafran Genocide (USSR is included here too). The Western companies also will pay compensation for polluting the Niger Delta. Nobody is going free.

We are also going to get compensation from Nigeria for the Biafran Genocide including trial and prosecution of war criminals dead or alive.

If we demand equity, we have to come with clean hands too. Our struggle is in various phases and freedom is just the start. We will complete all these even if it takes the next 500 years.

As for the issue of bankruptcy, Biafra will be the wealthiest nation on earth bar none and that has nothing to do with natural resources. Our economy will be different from what has ever existed in the world; every Biafran will be worth at least a mill dollars. This is the Biafra I'm fighting for not a shaky country like Nigeria.

I respect your opinion and politely disagree, nwannem. I look forward to the policy argument when we're both celebrating our freedom in Enugu

 

[T'challa]

I respect your opinion and politely disagree, nwannem. I look forward to the policy argument when we're both celebrating our freedom in Enugu

Isee nwannem

I'm as open as a book to all arguments

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

@Diasporan Royalty

Biafrans are thinking long and hard about the future of Africa. It's generally a giant question mark, but once freed from Nigeria...we could be middle income status in a generation.

 

[T'challa]

@Diasporan Royalty

Biafrans are thinking long and hard about the future of Africa. It's generally a giant question mark, but once freed from Nigeria...we could be middle income status in a generation.

The amount of work to be done is so much it is sometimes exhausting just thinking about it.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

The amount of work to be done is so much it is sometimes exhausting just thinking about it.

My dream:
1) Afro-Atlantic Common Market: A customs union, a uniform system of contract law and commercial arbitration, recognition of licenses and academic degrees, and freedom of travel, work and study.
2) Afro-Atlantic University System: A network of universities in major cities across Africa/Black Diaspora to create a pan-African educated elite
3) Afro-Atlantic Defense Treaty: Self-explanatory, I think.

 

[T'challa]

My dream:
1) Afro-Atlantic Common Market: A customs union, a uniform system of contract law and commercial arbitration, recognition of licenses and academic degrees, and freedom of travel, work and study.
2) Afro-Atlantic University System: A network of universities in major cities across Africa/Black Diaspora to create a pan-African educated elite
3) Afro-Atlantic Defense Treaty: Self-explanatory, I think.

I'm in complete agreement. I would add that the scope of the AU (or its replacement) be expanded to include all diasporas and be the vehicle for creating and coordinating these points you listed.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

I'm in complete agreement. I would add that the scope of the AU (or its replacement) be expanded to include all diasporas and be the vehicle for creating and coordinating these points you listed.

Africa is big. I'd prefer a regional start to such agreements before achieving a continental wide agreement. Perhaps I'm overly cautious.