What keeps Ice Cube from being labeled the GOAT rap artist?

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If it's 2x plat I think Predator and IWW are on equal footing, I have no idea how 6x plat showed up on the wiki page yesterday but it has changed now.

Ironically Nas himself cited Death Certificate as one of his greatest influences. Kendrick has spoken about it, I'm pretty sure Game has as well.

And Death Certificate transcends hip-hop, so its impact resonates with what is happening in the world today. Nas' album meanwhile may be praised for its lyricism, but all it is is an inferior attempt to replicate the sort of subgenre G Rap started and Raekwon ran with.
Difference is that IWW went double plat in 96 and Cube didn't go double plat until 2001.
Not that any of this matters in the slightest.
 

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Basic lyrics
Elementary delivery
No flow



It's like cube never advanced with everyone else, his skills stayed in the early 90's. Dude is a legend no doubt and a fukking pioneer for the west coast, but I never saw him as a dope rapper that had quotes that would blow your mind like a pac or a jay. Know I'm in the minority but it is what it is.
Cube has mad quotables breh. Cube knew how to get his point across without wasting bars. Every word had a purpose
 

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:stopitslime: There's no 'moving on' I've been a Cube fan.

Ghost is no.2



Totally gonna disregard the bold because that is false.

Cube has a better voice/delivery. You wanna give Nas the slightest edge in lyricism that's cool. Cube has a better body of work, making him the better MC overall. Nas is rapping at a higher level now, I don't question that.

Nas is a way better vocalist than cube. not even close.
 

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yeah not denying that but wtf I swear it said differently yesterday. Someone must have been playing with the numbers.
:mjlol:

But this is what I don't understand. How often do they re-check the album sales numbers.

Cube's album went plat (DC) like 2 months or so after release maybe even sooner. Am I supposed to believe that in 25 years since then it didn't sell another 1 mil? Or is that not how it works? You probably understand it better than I do.
99% of albums sell 99% of whatever they sell during the particular albums "run".

I'm speaking very generally here. :whoa:

Certification for platinum status has to be requested and an audit has to be paid for.
Soundscan, to my understanding, tracks album sales, but the RIAA does not rely entirely on Soundscan.

I believe that a label is watching the sales on Soundscan and requests and pays for the RIAA audit when they see that an album has crossed the sales threshold. The problem is, is there a financial incentive for labels to pay for certification on a decade old album? Is it really gonna increase sales enough to justify the cost? Who knows.

Also, when an album is certified gold, that could mean it sold 500,000 or 950,000.

We need a Coli Soundscan account :ahh:
 

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Amerikkkas Most Wanted is 1a/1b with Doggystyle for best rap album though, I should make a top 50 sometime and see how well Cube does
 

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because CUBE isn't, and has never been seen as a lyricist.
he's a legend no doubt, has many classic albums and tracks that will live on forever

but is he really seeing REDMAN lyrically? :comeon:

a GOAT is somebody who can make a hot club record, a street record, a radio pop record, and come in a cypher and hold their own

these are the only 2 cats that can say they've done that:
LL-Cool-J-Eminem-Collaboration-640x465.jpg
 

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Which are your favorite?
fukk the police coming straight from the underground
A young nikka got it bad cause I'm brown
:blessed:

Used to be my homie now you act like you don't kno me:blessed:

Get me on the court and im trouble
Last week fukked around and got a triple double
:blessed:

Cause if you run up and try to play mine
I'd rather have a AK than a fukkin' canine
Cause if you shot your gun, and my dog tried to fetch her
Me and the dog's goin' out on a stretcher
:blessed:

That's just off top
 

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because CUBE isn't, and has never been seen as a lyricist.
he's a legend no doubt, has many classic albums and tracks that will live on forever

but is he really seeing REDMAN lyrically? :comeon:

a GOAT is somebody who can make a hot club record, a street record, a radio pop record, and come in a cypher and hold their own

these are the only 2 cats that can say they've done that:
LL-Cool-J-Eminem-Collaboration-640x465.jpg

Em has no club bangers
 

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because CUBE isn't, and has never been seen as a lyricist.
he's a legend no doubt, has many classic albums and tracks that will live on forever

but is he really seeing REDMAN lyrically? :comeon:

a GOAT is somebody who can make a hot club record, a street record, a radio pop record, and come in a cypher and hold their own

these are the only 2 cats that can say they've done that:
LL-Cool-J-Eminem-Collaboration-640x465.jpg
:dwillhuh:
Making pop records has nothing to do with hip hop.
Making club records is not a prerequisite to being a legend.
Neither is making a street record.

Your view of hip hop is all fukked up :scust:
Then you post a pic of Eminem? :mjlol:
 

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fukk the police coming straight from the underground
A young nikka got it bad cause I'm brown
:blessed:

Used to be my homie now you act like you don't kno me:blessed:

Get me on the court and im trouble
Last week fukked around and got a triple double
:blessed:

Cause if you run up and try to play mine
I'd rather have a AK than a fukkin' canine
Cause if you shot your gun, and my dog tried to fetch her
Me and the dog's goin' out on a stretcher
:blessed:

That's just off top
Boots get knocked from here to Chechoslyvakia :blessed:
 
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