What keeps so many black men out of the trades??

[NoChillJones]

Im talking about Carpentry, Masonry, Plumbing and becoming Electricians ?

These are Jobs that can lead to a middle class existence or even can make you rich in some circumstances.

Even though there are some You see too few black men in these jobs. What is the main obstacle(s) that keeps black men out of the trades ??

Lack of knowledge of how to get into these fields and mentors....

 

[DonMakavelli]

Hate to say it but some nikkas are book dumb too, I know here in Chicago you have to sit for an exam to get your plumbers license

this is going to sound bad but in a lot of cases that's not an excuse either

maybe for trades, but not for degrees. brehs aren't taking advantage of either one. but then complain about making $9.00 an hour at Sam's Club
i know many asians, arabs, cac, latinos who cheated their way to a degree....especially if you take online classes...it's not that hard

i know many on here hate to be compared to other races, but brehs need to sort of emulate how they do things

a lot of them cheat and cut corners (together). there's loopholes in things but brehs don't take advantage of that.

they even put stuff in their businesses name instead of their own....there's a lot of stuff they use their businesses for, but when you talk about business to black men they don't see a point in it....you can't even get brehs to pick up a trade/career to POTENTIALLY start a business....how will black men get to the point of business ownership if most aren't even interested in anything that can be turned into a business.....

anyway though other races used to cheat heavy in high school and college. somebody gets the answers to some test or exam and they give them to each other.

one of my good friends in college was this asian nikka who's father owned a chain of restaurants, i know....dude wasn't that book smart but he cheated on most stuff...got his degree too (IT)

 

[Mr. McDowell]

The question I have is why would anyone WANT to do manual labor? I did it with an older contractor when I was a boy for a few weeks and I told my parents no thanks. It's tiring, yes the money was good, but that wasn't enough to make me interested in doing it.

How do you convince other people to pick up trades when you yourself will not work a trade? Why should they be interested when you yourself were not?

 

[Razor Reader]

Lack of knowledge of how to get into these fields and mentors....

So what would need to be done to make this knowledge more available to the average young black male ?

 

[Ricky Fontaine]

The question I have is why would anyone WANT to do manual labor? I did it with an older contractor when I was a boy for a few weeks and I told my parents no thanks. It's tiring, yes the money was good, but that wasn't enough to make me interested in doing it.

How do you convince other people to pick up trades when you yourself will not work a trade? Why should they be interested when you yourself were not?

Not all trades are labor intensive. A plumber sits his ass on the ground and untwist pipes and shyt. It ain't exactly back breaking.

You gotta get outta this mindset that you're too good for manual labor. If you do NOT have a college degree, then you are NOT too good for manual labor. Period.

 

[Razor Reader]

The question I have is why would anyone WANT to do manual labor? I did it with an older contractor when I was a boy for a few weeks and I told my parents no thanks. It's tiring, yes the money was good, but that wasn't enough to make me interested in doing it.

How do you convince other people to pick up trades when you yourself will not work a trade? Why should they be interested when you yourself were not?

Well, obviously working in the trades and doing manual labor is not for everybody. But it is lucrative and and more people can succeed at being a Tradesman that say a computer scientist, nuclear physicist mathematician, lawyer, bank robber Heist man, professional con artist, Pimp, Contract Killer, or world class narcotics dealer.

Something to think about.

 

[Mr. McDowell]

Not all trades are labor intensive. A plumber sits his ass on the ground and untwist pipes and shyt. It ain't exactly back breaking.

You gotta get outta this mindset that you're too good for manual labor. If you do NOT have a college degree, then you are NOT too good for manual labor. Period.

I have nothing against the trades. The men (and women) who do these jobs are valuable. I realized it wasn't for me as a youngin' and it still isn't. All you'd have to do is look at my hands and see that. However, how do we convince young people to do something that is labor intensive that they have no passion for? I am legit asking because I am not sure you can put the genie back in the bottle.

 

[NoChillJones]

So what would need to be done to make this knowledge more available to the average young black male ?

More programs that promote these career paths. Real information that shows the lucrative aspect of it. Most kids aren't thinking realistically about their futures like that. They just want to get out of school. And the ones who are thinking, they are thinking college, and not necessarily being a plumber or electrician.

If you know a few brothers in these trades, start a program that supports teaching the trade to neighborhood or city kids, promote the reality of the trade and how it can be the difference of having to work a dead end low wage and always being able to eat decently

 

[Ricky Fontaine]

I have nothing against the trades. The men (and women) who do these jobs are valuable. I realized it wasn't for me as a youngin' and it still isn't. All you'd have to do is look at my hands and see that. However, how do we convince young people to do something that is labor intensive that they have no passion for? I am legit asking because I am not sure you can put the genie back in the bottle.

Nah i agree because i did contract work right after college (family business) and i hated it.

But at the end of the day you just got to introduce it to them young even if it's not for them. I thought i was gonna be a desk jockey but i moved back home and couldn't find a job right away.

Went i to contracting, didn't like it all but it wasn't unbearable because I'd been introduced to it young and just needed the money.

I doubt plumbers have a passion for plunging people's shyt but you just have to do what you have to do sometimes. I think the reason young people stay away from trades is because they aren't taught discipline and delayed reward at a young age.

 

[Razor Reader]

I have nothing against the trades. The men (and women) who do these jobs are valuable. I realized it wasn't for me as a youngin' and it still isn't. All you'd have to do is look at my hands and see that. However, how do we convince young people to do something that is labor intensive that they have no passion for? I am legit asking because I am not sure you can put the genie back in the bottle.

Just look at yourself being passed by by other communities and then sitting around complaining about what you don't have.

Whites and now more than ever Hispanics eclipse and black people in every area of life.

Keep fantasizing that we all can be rappers, ball players and hustlers.

And spending tons of money on college careers that you mostly never pursue or if you see that is a waste of time as well.


Being stuck on stupid ain't cool...

 

[street heat]

I have nothing against the trades. The men (and women) who do these jobs are valuable. I realized it wasn't for me as a youngin' and it still isn't. All you'd have to do is look at my hands and see that. However, how do we convince young people to do something that is labor intensive that they have no passion for? I am legit asking because I am not sure you can put the genie back in the bottle.

I’d encourage them to just give it a try... you’d be surprised how much you can learn to love something when the money is right. A benefit of a lot of trades is you can work alone and not have someone breathing down your neck all day. Sometimes I’ll go a week without even seeing my manager.

Maybe it’s easy for me to say since I do actually enjoy my work and it fits my personality type, but they just need to give things a chance..what else do they have going on ?

I’d also like to add there are two year degrees in some trades so you can have a piece of paper to go along with your skills.

Examples Texas State Technical College | Programs | Alphebetical Listing of Programs

 

[Axolotl]

you want the real answer, or some feel good bullshyt?

most people nowadays, black or not, cannot handle blue collar work.

my company has a very high turnover rate.

guys come in with big talk about how much they want to learn and how hard they work, but nope the fukk out within a week

most of you talking shyt in this thread wouldn’t last either

stick to those office jobs, where you can hide in the bathroom for hours at a time and sit down at a desk all day pretending to work

trades are for men who can overcome challenges, not pussies who only know how to finesse their way through life or game the system

who hurt u breh?

 

[get these nets]

I’d encourage them to just give it a try... you’d be surprised how much you can learn to love something when the money is right. A benefit of a lot of trades is you can work alone and not have someone breathing down your neck all day. Sometimes I’ll go a week without even seeing my manager.

Maybe it’s easy for me to say since I do actually enjoy my work and it fits my personality type, but they just need to give things a chance..what else do they have going on ?

I’d also like to add there are two year degrees in some trades so you can have a piece of paper to go along with your skills.

Examples Texas State Technical College | Programs | Alphebetical Listing of Programs

Obama pushed for nationwide tuition free community colleges


Wasn't just lip service for a speech either, not sure how far it got, but some states do have free community college programs.

If giving all people a chance at higher education for low/no cost isn't "doing something for Black people", I don't know what is.

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

The question I have is why would anyone WANT to do manual labor? I did it with an older contractor when I was a boy for a few weeks and I told my parents no thanks. It's tiring, yes the money was good, but that wasn't enough to make me interested in doing it.

How do you convince other people to pick up trades when you yourself will not work a trade? Why should they be interested when you yourself were not?

For a considerable amount of men, there is a gratifying feeling in knowing that you have the ability to fix things, build shyt, and create things from scratch.

 

[Razor Reader]

Yeah, brehs aren't interested for the most part. People in here are talking about "the white man" but that's not it in this case. I've talked to enough brehs to know that they just generally aren't interested in it. The few that are, are generally doing good though.

Back after i graduated, i was telling brehs that i knew, either

1- Go to college and pick a really good major, something that is in demand and pays well
2- Pick a trade that pays well, possibly start a business
3- Military

But a lot didn't listen, so they're working at Wal Mart or KFC

I'd hear a lot of dudes say they didn't want to do that stuff but i'm motivated by high (or at least decent) salary. I make good money but i know a lot of brehs would not do what i'm doing because they'd find it boring or maybe too technical, but it's not hard. Most of the dudes in my field are white, asian and latino

Decent drop.