What % of athletes are juicing?
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Kunty McPhuck
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He uses Lidocaine which isn't banned by WADA, but is by NASC.
Scottie Drippin
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You only think that because you've never read a single book, study, or op-ed on systemic doping. This isn't some conspiracy or even secret endeavor.
Read anything about Dr. Michele Ferrari or Dr. Eufemiano Fuentes. If you want to deal with just facts those two were caught and were the pioneers of epo/blood doping, and the mircodosing practices they came up with that were perfected to pass doping screens that were looking for the very substances being tested for. And when we the regular joe's know these substances exist, the athletic world is already onto the next big thing that we'll learn about a decade later.
It took almost a decade for it to get out that athletes were getting diagnosed with asthma so they could get exempted injections of triamcinalone and that's just one thing they're using in combination with other concepts and substances.
Kunty McPhuck
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Bruh they're not ready for conversations like that. Or why suddenly so many athletes have asthma and need therapeutic use exemptions for regular injections of performance enhancers
After what MLB went through the American sports leagues have treated doping like a kiss of death for their ratings and live attendance so the reporting on it is always pushed to the background. It's led to a generation of fans here left ignorant as to what's really happening.
Like genuinely believe American athletes are mostly clean despite the entire world doping.
Y'all in Europe get the weekly doping exposes but in the US whenever they finally HAVE to crack down on doping it's treated like a few renegade bad eggs. It's wild.
They say Grigory Rodchenkov is in witness protection. My man is under armed guard in some west coast lab cooking up some new shyt for the next batch of US Olympians like Dr Zola.
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Almost every athlete takes PEDs.
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Kunty McPhuck
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And Ferrari learnt his craft from Francesco Conconi
Once again you are the one who accused every single athlete. I’m not trying to defend anyone, I’m just saying it’s real easy to make these broad statements but people get real shy when you start naming specific athletes. So other than Floyd please name some more big names that folks are in denial about. And not Bron and Wade either cuz they have already been mentioned...Floyd very publically was accused of illegal IV usage before his fight with Manny, the very same fight where Manny got exposed for using a therapeutic use exemption to inject toradol
See you literally are searching in your mind for athletes you think are in the clear in your "but-but what about (x player here)" argument and couldn't even list FIVE without stumbling into one who got caught red handed doing something illegal or in a huge intentional legal gray areaf forperformance enhancement (and his opponent was too).
And you still think I'M the one being unreasonable.
Once you get beyond the "THIS GUY IS PROBABLY CLEAN AND OTHERS ARE PROBABLY TOO BECAUSE HE PROBABLY IS" mindset you'll realize doping in sports is systemic and way beyond the means of any association control, and it's in the best interest of the associations that they keep this shyt under wraps.
And the sheer audacity if thinking a fukking football player is clean.
Like the other posters have said, what happened to Peyton's doping scandal? You think he's alone and a renagade doper? What about the Patriots denying TB12s personal doctor access to their facilities? Is he alone, no one else is dipping into questionable advance medicine to beat father time?
You're still thinking athlete by athlete for some reason despite everything telling you it's everyone.
Every time they bust one of these labs that have a client list a mile long and only a few names come out. You think the other names are IT dudes are something?
I knew people in minor league baseball and hockey. Everyone was on something.
And this was way after Balco/Canseco Drama.
Scottie Drippin
Should Never Mention Me
Nah I've given you plenty of information. At this point if you want to learn you just gotta google one of the things I brought up to you that you genuinely didn't know about until this thread and do the rest yourself.
Anything else is willful ignorance.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
I don’t think professional sports—including high level collegiate sports—have been “clean” since the late 90s.Literally every single last one.
It's funny that so many grown men like to retain hope that literally any of their heroes are "clean".
With everything we know about doping since the dawn of organized, competitive athletics
ESPECIALLY in the last 40-50 years
Y'all still believe in santa claus
Even thinking it's some dark secret or nefarious backfroom situation is grown men believing in fairy tales.
Every single professional athlete on the planet is using the latest cutting edge human advancement they can get their hands on.
Doping is always years ahead of testing, AND, it is in the best interest of the leagues/governing bodies to not catch people. We've seen this proven time and time again too.
If you believe athletes aren't doping you REALLY have to ask yourself what you're really believing in and why it matters so much to you.
I think a lot of it goes down to sheer ignorance as people still think doping = muscles hence the "BASKETBALL PLAYERS DON'T DOPE MUSCLES DON'T HELP YOU SHOOT" rhetoric despite the fact that the most elaborate doping systems and methods are geared entirely towards stamina, weight control, and recovery.
No
You don't know what I've read