What was the final atheist that made you a straw?

[drhook94]

This is facts. They had me out here ready to debate anybody anytime. It was on sight for Christians.

yea in hindsight a lot of the reason i got ostracized was because i was a militant little piece of shyt lmao

 

[MMS]

This is the kind of shyt that turned me away. What the hell are you sayingHyper vague asf. Which god are you talking about, there are millions

Again I'm not anti-God atm. I was for a while, when I was young. Ironically my scientific pursuits have brought me closer to the concept of "god", nature or the first "Cause" then religion ever has.

Isaiah 44:6-9

6 Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

7 And who, as I, shall call, and shall declare it, and set it in order for me, since I appointed the ancient people? and the things that are coming, and shall come, let them shew unto them.

8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

9 They that make a graven image are all of them vanity; and their delectable things shall not profit; and they are their own witnesses; they see not, nor know; that they may be ashamed.

yeah, i do not believe in concepts, I believe in that God who creates all concepts.

science isnt exclusive from faith, rather its bolstered by it. Real science lasts, while quack science gets consumed by time. But science isnt something that will redeem you (coming from a chemical engineer)

 

[MMS]

Deism which became popular with the enlightenment is also pretty compatible with science.

For those who don't know, at a simple level deists believe there is a God but that God intervenes in the universe extremely rarely if ever at all. God essentially set the foundation for the Universe to begin, and just let things play out from there

another way to consider this is that God intervenes always but in a way that isn't always discernable to our senses, but we know (if you and I are true believers) that God has and must influence creation otherwise it can not be said to be made by him.

 

[JA_Carter]

Won’t say in an atheist but the reading the book of job was the first time I was like not to mention learning about how Christianity was used to control us during slavery

 

[MMS]

yea in hindsight a lot of the reason i got ostracized was because i was a militant little piece of shyt lmao

Sunday of the Prodigal Son

Luke 15:24

“For this my son was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.”

The parable of the Prodigal Son forms an exact icon of repentance at its different stages. Sin is exile, enslavement to strangers, hunger. Repentance is the return from exile to our true home; it is to receive back our inheritance and freedom in the Father’s house. To repent is not just to feel dissatisfied, but to make a decision and to act upon it.

your preachers and teachers may turn their backs on you, and condemn you but Jesus christ will always receive you

When I disobeyed in ignorance Thy fatherly glory, I wasted in iniquities the riches that Thou gavest me. Wherefore, I cry to Thee with the voice of the prodigal son, saying, I have sinned before Thee, O compassionate Father, receive me repentant, and make me as one of Thy hired servants.

 

[Ya Sinning Mane]

I hope u all find Jesus one day somehow someway.

 

[Vandelay]

No last straw per say.

Just realized that some wicked people never get theirs and some good people die young in the worst conceivable way possible. Judgement after life is beyond a stupid concept because the actions in life have caused so many others so much pain.

If there is a god...he doesn't give a fukk. Why worship that?

 

[BmoreGorilla]

I always trip when people talk about how they took the Bible literally

 

[MMS]

No last straw per say.

Just realized that some wicked people never get theirs and some good people die young in the worst conceivable way possible. Judgement after life is beyond a stupid concept because the actions in life have caused so many others so much pain.

If there is a god...he doesn't give a fukk. Why worship that?

maybe the issue is the perspective you were taught?

i was raised methodist and i fell away from it too. A change in perspective made me see scriptures completely different and at peace with those problems. We see the world in what is really a brief moment, we are called to be part of the solution and to lift people up where we can and are able. Yet that doesnt mean free will ceases to exist. Christ defeated death by death. Truly consider the ramifications of a world where death isnt actually true.

 

[Joe Budden]

I always trip when people talk about how they took the Bible literally

If you’re a true believer it’s supposed to be taken literally.

 

[MMS]

If you’re a true believer it’s supposed to be taken literally.

i will say this, it is a miracle that there is no "dimensional flood" which should be true...

 

[Money Be Green]

 

[BmoreGorilla]

If you’re a true believer it’s supposed to be taken literally.

I don’t think that has to be a requirement. Do I believe Jesus turned water to wine? Hell nah. That nikka just hit up the liquor store and bought out the bar

 

[Vandelay]

maybe the issue is the perspective you were taught?

i was raised methodist and i fell away from it too. A change in perspective made me see scriptures completely different and at peace with those problems. We see the world in what is really a brief moment, we are called to be part of the solution and to lift people up where we can and are able. Yet that doesnt mean free will ceases to exist. Christ defeated death by death. Truly consider the ramifications of a world where death isnt actually true.

Death in the flesh? I'm willing to consider that, still doesn't invalidate my original point.

I'm willing to admit a judeo-christian-islamic upbringing could have benefits for living with a standardized societal moral guide, but as far fully committing to the belief system just isn't for me.

Free will can not coexist with omnipotence and omniscience. A truly omnipotent and omniscient being will already know that outcome.

For the record, I'm not full on atheist. I'm probably a deist.

 

[MMS]

Death in the flesh? I'm willing to consider that, still doesn't invalidate my original point.

I'm willing to admit a judeo-christian-islamic upbringing could have benefits for living with a standardized societal moral guide, but as far fully committing to the belief system just isn't for me.

Free will can not coexist with omnipotence and omniscience. A truly omnipotent and omniscient being will already know that outcome.

For the record, I'm not full on atheist. I'm probably a deist.

if you walk with me, i will show you things

when I say to you, God will reign forever, i mean that which creates you also receives you. And if he can do both, then you should never fear ever again, and lawlessness will be abhorrent to you and wickedness far from your being.

Right now is more complex and wonderous than words can explain
We are living in a world of illusion