what would a top 5 list in 1994 look like?

[BmoreGorilla]

Quayle called on the Time Warner Inc. subsidiary, Interscope Records, to withdraw the album "2pacalypse Now" by rap artist Tupac Amaru Shakur from stores. Quayle charged that the record was responsible for the death of a Texas state trooper, who was shot to death in April by a suspect who allegedly was listening to the album on the tape deck of a stolen truck when he was stopped by the officer.

Ronald Ray Howard, 19, is being held on murder charges in Edna, Tex., in the death of Bill Davidson, 43, who was shot after pulling Howard over to issue a traffic ticket.

The trooper's family has filed a civil suit against Shakur and Interscope, claiming the record's violence-laden lyrics incite "imminent lawless action."

Quayle Calls for Pulling Rap Album Tied to Murder Case

Breh you think that's more controversial than actually shooting at cops and getting a rape charge?

 

[JustCKing]

Breh you think that's more controversial than actually shooting at cops and getting a rape charge?

The Vice President of the U.S. is calling for a ban on your music because he felt it was responsible for the death of a state trooper. So yes, when the Vice President of the U.S. is saying your lyrics are responsible for someone's death and they incite lawless action it is more controversial because this was bigger than Pac.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

How didn't it leave a mark when its had documentaries made?

East coast media made the mark for it.
The album flopped.
Nas changed his entire approach to finally become someone in hiphop. Nas never ran any year in hiphop

 

[Art Barr]

East coast media made the mark for it.
The album flopped.
Nas changed his entire approach to finally become someone in hiphop. Nas never ran any year in hiphop

This shows you a toy and speaking as a commercial mainstream gangsta rap pop sector based Stan.

You are not a bboy and you trying to talk from a cultural perspective shows you don't know hiphop. Which is why nikkaz asked where you from and your age. Keep deflecting on the issues.
Yet you keep trying to talk about hip hop actual culture and you KNOW NUFFIN ABOUT HIPHOP ACTUAL CULTURE AT ALL.


ART BARR

 

[JustCKing]

not sure about Jeru, but the rest of them were around for years before their 1st album.

and warren g was more of a DJ/producer on top of that.





@JustCKing

i'll say this much about scarface.

face looking like he was 40, is one of the reasons why he wasn't such a hot-topic.

And despite them being around for years, they weren't looked at as old upon dropping their first albums. Just because dude had a single called "This DJ" doesn't mean people viewed him as a DJ/producer. "Regulate" was a pretty huge deal.

In regard to Face, regardless of what he looked like, he was still a viable rapper in 1994. A lot of the cosmetic/age jive that's being kicked in this thread was trivial in regard to actual age. Being old had more to do with how fresh/dated the music sounded and how well MC's were adapting to the change in style vs. how they looked or what their actual ages were.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

This shows you a toy and speaking as a commercial mainstream gangsta rap pop sector based Stan.

You are not a bboy and you trying to talk from a cultural perspective shows you don't know hiphop. Which is why nikkaz asked where you from and your age. Keep deflecting on the issues.
Yet you keep trying to talk about hip hop actual culture and you KNOW NUFFIN ABOUT HIPHOP ACTUAL CULTURE AT ALL.


ART BARR

I've put out my age multiple times on this board. But watching disgruntled posters reach for straws while i debunk and expose them is quite humorous to me.

Asking my age in the midst of me sonning you is the only actual deflection between us. I sonned you on everything we debated about so you hoped you could use that as some get back.
See me,a real nikka,I son nikkas,acquire more intel and add more sonnings. But YOU,you get tore up by big bad then start talking all this "you not a b-boy" mumbo jumbo,as a way to downplay the sonnings YOU'VE RECEIVED.
Some of the sonnings were acting like Bone wasnt really looked upon as being dope till 1995 (in another thread) yet acting like it was 1994 (in this thread)
See,you dont even mean what you say,you just hope if you type enough,that weak minded nikkas might agree with your nonsense.
But bigbad aint going for it,ever.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

face looking like he was 40, is one of the reasons why he wasn't such a hot-topic.

Face wasnt a hot topic,meaning what?

 

[Wacky D]

1. So basically you werent alive when Black Michael Jackson was dropping albums,like i said. Meanwhile i was,like i said.
Also BAD was a classic in real time despite that whitened skin backlash or the increased talks of him being a "faq".

I stopped reading right there.

one minute youre in high school listening to 2pac. the next minute, you were suddenly alive when the Jackson five were poppin??

this doesn't even come close to adding up.

Face wasnt a hot topic,meaning what?

he wasn't a polarizing figure.

and didn't have any polarizing tunes outside of "mind playing tricks on me".​

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

I stopped reading right there.

1.one minute youre in high school listening to 2pac. the next minute, you were suddenly alive when the Jackson five were poppin??

2.he wasn't a polarizing figure.

and didn't have any polarizing tunes outside of "mind playing tricks on me"​

1.I didnt mention the jackson 5 at all. Making up shyt wont save you. "White mike" didnt drop an album till bad,you know the first album he dropped after u were born

2.You sure you want to stand on this?

 

[Wacky D]

1.I didnt mention the jackson 5 at all. Making up shyt wont save you. "White mike" didnt drop an album till bad,you know the first album he dropped after u were born

2.You sure you want to stand on this?

1. theres some sort of language barrier with you.

I CLEARLY stated that mike fell out of favor with his O.G audience in general, when droppin thriller, BAD, etc.
by O.G. audience, I'm talking about the people who grew up listening to the Jackson five & such. "off the wall" is GENERALLY the last jawn they rocked wit like that. that's why I said you bringing up those albums is a bad comparison, which actually fuels MY point.

2. something tells me you don't know what 'polarizing' means.

 

[JustCKing]

I stopped reading right there.

one minute youre in high school listening to 2pac. the next minute, you were suddenly alive when the Jackson five were poppin??

this doesn't even come close to adding up.

he wasn't a polarizing figure.

and didn't have any polarizing tunes outside of "mind playing tricks on me".​

Just because you're not polarizing does not mean you're not a hot topic. Beong polarizing has its negative aspects too because it also means that there is an extreme opposition to what you're doing.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

1. theres some sort of language barrier with you.

I CLEARLY stated that mike fell out of favor with his O.G audience in general, when droppin thriller, BAD, etc.
by O.G. audience, I'm talking about the people who grew up listening to the Jackson five & such. "off the wall" is GENERALLY the last jawn they rocked wit like that. that's why I said you bringing up those albums is a bad comparison, which actually fuels MY point.

2. something tells me you don't know what 'polarizing' means.

1.Lol so mike's og fans want feeling thriller,lmao

2.What does it mean then,in this context?

 

[QuintessentialMan]

EPMD

 

[martin payne]

east coast much?

 

[Wacky D]

The Vice President of the U.S. is calling for a ban on your music because he felt it was responsible for the death of a state trooper. So yes, when the Vice President of the U.S. is saying your lyrics are responsible for someone's death and they incite lawless action it is more controversial because this was bigger than Pac.

that aint saying much.

I remember ice t's "cop killer" was the main song getting pub in the midst of these gangsta rap protests. are we gonna act like that song made a dent in hip-hop?

I remember some relatively random stuff getting press during that time too.

And despite them being around for years, they weren't looked at as old upon dropping their first albums. Just because dude had a single called "This DJ" doesn't mean people viewed him as a DJ/producer. "Regulate" was a pretty huge deal.

In regard to Face, regardless of what he looked like, he was still a viable rapper in 1994. A lot of the cosmetic/age jive that's being kicked in this thread was trivial in regard to actual age. Being old had more to do with how fresh/dated the music sounded and how well MC's were adapting to the change in style vs. how they looked or what their actual ages were.

you argue every minuscule remark down to the white meat. its to the point where I don't even remember what we're arguing about.

but for the record, he always referred to himself as DJ Warren G. his 1st nationally televised appearance was DJing for snoop.

I don't know what youre rambling about. I was just referring to face's marketability, or lack thereof.

Just because you're not polarizing does not mean you're not a hot topic. Beong polarizing has its negative aspects too because it also
means that there is an extreme opposition to what you're doing.

if theres no extreme opposition to what youre doing, then theres something youre doing wrong​