It's amazing how you were able to type all this with clown gloves on.
Whats going on with kevin love lately ......
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It's amazing how you were able to type all this with clown gloves on.
Breh, he's a star, the Cavs are clearly just coasting and he was the 2nd best player in those finals last season.
David_TheMan
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Oh you one of those kyrie stans.
Man hasn't shown the ability to run an offense, right or wrong?
If LeBron wasn't on this team, do you think they would be running as efficiently if Kyrie took over the offense and distribution?
We know what the answer is no. Kyrie is about Kyrie stats, not about making a team better, he isn't any different from the kid who led his team to 2 straight #1 picks.
Man isn't going to take the next step to being a superstar, he is just a very good scorer
David_TheMan
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He is a star, he isn't hasn't developed into another superstar. I was hoping he would become an approximation of Wade, show the leadership, the ability to carry a team and develop, he hasn't.
There's only 6 or 7 superstars in the NBA, and truth be told Kyrie can outplay any of them on any given night. He doesn't need to be a leader with LeBron on his team, and his playoff run last year with Bron was better than any playoff run Wade had with him.
Captain Crunch
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Bron made the power mover to trade for him, and now got him playing inspired. 
Bron the GOAT player, GM, and coach
Bron the GOAT player, GM, and coach
Anybody playing with Bron will be a complimentary player until he falls off. He looked pretty legit when they came back from down 3-1 last year
.They already have a leader and the team is stacked so there is nothing to carry. All he has to do is play his role which is to put his head down and score. He actually fits with Bron better because of his ability to shoot.
Oh you one of those kyrie stans.
Man hasn't shown the ability to run an offense, right or wrong?
He knows how to run an offense.
He knows how to make the correct play in the pick and roll. In pick and pop. He knows how to pass and distribute. Cavs rotate ball handling duties between Kyrie, LeBron, Liggins, and Shump.
No, if you take the best player in basketball off this team they will not be the same. This team was built to support the strengths of LeBron James. From head coaching down to the 15th man.
Kyrie is playing his role on this team which is the primary 1a/1b scorer/distributor. His scoring ability (48/43/87 shooting splits and career best eFG% .55 and career best true shooting % at .59) helps to make his team better and lightens the offensive load on both Love and James.
Averaging over 20 PPG along with Kyrie & Bron yet the Coli kept claiming all 3 couldn't coexist without at least one significantly sacrificing their numbers. 
He's become a great defender but offensively, the only difference is he's shooting the ball with the utmost confidence & knocking down his wide open 3's. Winning a championship making one of the biggest plays of the game after being questioned all season long must've been a huge monkey off his back.
He's become a great defender but offensively, the only difference is he's shooting the ball with the utmost confidence & knocking down his wide open 3's. Winning a championship making one of the biggest plays of the game after being questioned all season long must've been a huge monkey off his back.
David_TheMan
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Anybody playing with Bron will be a complimentary player until he falls off. He looked pretty legit when they came back from down 3-1 last year
They already have a leader and the team is stacked so there is nothing to carry. All he has to do is play his role which is to put his head down and score. He actually fits with Bron better because of his ability to shoot.
Year 1 and 2 in Miami, if Lebron was off, Wade could carry the team in his place, to the point everyone knew they would be okay if LeBron wasn't A1. Same for LeBron if Wade was out. I don't believe Kyrie is the level where if LeBron is down he can lift the team up and I thought he would become that player but I'm not seeing the development of him becoming a true superstar, when I thought he could be that type of player, maybe thats on me for thinking too highly of him.
He doesn't know how to run an offense, not professionally. Too often last year and this year I see too much over dribbling instead of ball movement and making it his focal point to get the other players involved, that said again maybe I'm wrong, Im looking at him like a PG, when I probably should be looking at him as a SG.
Yeah he can pick his spots, but he isn't in that superstar category, I was just hoping that he would enter into that. As for better than Wade, he had favorable matchup in the finals against Curry, I'll leave it at that.
I don't think the Cavs care how people view him in terms of traditional standards. That's not how this team was built.
Fact is he plays with the best passer in the league. It would be stupid for Kyrie to facilitate 100 percent of the time.
His coach demands him to be aggressive and efficient as a scorer. That's what they need from him in this current role. Thats how they break apart half court defensive sets. That's how they won the fukking title.
You can be the ultimate typecast point guard and your team can be complete shyt. Just look at John Wall.
What is your basis for this? He had a chance to prove that in the 2011 Finals with Bron actually playing, albeit like Savannah, and didn't get it done. If Bron had actually went down that team would have collapsed. They were even more dependent on him than the Cavs are. Beyond that, Bron is there so what is the relevance of carrying the team in his place? If Bron goes out the Cavs are done and that would be the case no matter who his number 2 is.
David_TheMan
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Well to be honest I think Wall would be better fit for the Cavs than Kyrie, I don't like Kyrie's game and I'm not saying he needs to facilitate 100% of the time, he needs to do so when LeBron is off the floor.
Wade played his ass off year 1 in the finals when LeBron didn't play that great. We won't even get started on Bosh. That said my point isn't that they would win every game without LeBron or they would be just as good, its that you would have enough to maintain and be cmpetitive and we know Wade would get them into the playoffs.
Wall would not be a good fit with LeBron, the type of PGs that play well with LeBron are scorers that can hit the three, basically Curry, Lillard or Kyrie, guys that can play off the ball at times and function as SGs.
You said they would be okay without Bron being A1. Bron was far from A1 and they lost and it wasn't like they got blown out either, they lost close games...the type that a superstar that can carry you carries you to victory in. We aren't gonna move the goalpost to just making playoffs and this nebulous "competitive" idea. Plenty of non-superstars that are not capable of lifting a team do that everyday B. Beyond that, I'm pretty confident Kyrie, Love and whoever they sign with the max spot Bron leaves could make the playoffs.