What's the beef between Andre 3000 and Big Boi about?

[T-K-G]

all im getting from this thread is fans entitled as hell

if the nikka don't wanna perform anymore, get over it, he don't owe you a damn thing, he made the music and you bought it, everything else is just icing on the cake and he don't gotta do it if he doesn't want to, if big boi got over it and can still be cool with dre then why yall in here mad on his behalf

nikkas sayin he doesn't make things anymore when he's on record saying he still makes stuff but he'll let his son and his homeboys hear it

whole thread reads like former fans who are scorned and bitter towards dre

 

[shopthatwrecks]

Son they went diamond with Speakerboxx /The Love Below and Dre wouldnt tour just cause he didnt feel like it. Big Boi said it fukked him out of millions of dollars.

he didnt jus didnt tour because he didnt feel like it..

big was makin noise with his singles on the urban side of music..

dre was makin noise where it count n the bigger picture...pretty much outside of the hood..


if u go back look at everything dealin with speakerboxx n the love below...u would have seem the industry was tryin 2 break the group up..david letterman got prolly the first n llast couple of perfomances from dre..

before hey ya ..u never seen outkast on letterman...leno..or ellen ..hell even regis had em on his show...

dre saw what hey ya was doin nationally...not once did get big get called to perform the way u move..or ghettomusick...

everytime outkast got scheduled to a tv show or somethin they wanted hey ya,.,,didnt give a fukk about big...

dre even pissed off an staff at an awards show..because he sung prototype..n sent it str8 to big boi to perform...they forced him to comeback out to perform hey ya...

10 the hard way was suppose to drop..next...but jive got their contracts...n was forcin dre to put out a solo..since the love below was originally suppose to have been a solo...

but he didnt...he wanted to put the idlewild movie...that was originally suppose to been based off the album...

10 the hard way got put on the shelf... big boi workin on his solo...jive not givin a fukk about what big do...dre made them listen to the singles big had..the one he had with mary j..n the royal flush ft 3000 n raekwan..both became singles...

outkast had idlewild out jive didnt really promote it....jive was jus lookin 4 the next hey ya out of dre..n he would not budge...

son of chico dusty was ready...big got shelved...dre said fukk music..i do shyt when i wanna ..not when these nikkas want me to so they can whore me...thats how we been doin it..fukk the change..

dre let big perform on every show during the idlewild run..n he jus sat there...

big didnt take a loss really..he stayed even..he signed with ti...jive force grand hustle n atlantic hand into not releasin big album..

big signed with def jam...jive forced him to take the singles off the album and everything with andre 3000 voice on it...in order to even release the album he did it..n also release those songs on the internet..n told ppl where the songs belonged in original order...as a fukk u to jive...

big made money...didnt lose a step...

fast forward to this n last yr.. they finally did coachella..why when dre finally get back in the tourin bug..this happens



had dre did the opposite of everything i said..big boi wouldnt be dmc ..phife...latavia roberson status..

 

[Young/Nacho\Drawz]

he didnt jus didnt tour because he didnt feel like it..

big was makin noise with his singles on the urban side of music..

dre was makin noise where it count n the bigger picture...pretty much outside of the hood..


if u go back look at everything dealin with speakerboxx n the love below...u would have seem the industry was tryin 2 break the group up..david letterman got prolly the first n llast couple of perfomances from dre..

before hey ya ..u never seen outkast on letterman...leno..or ellen ..hell even regis had em on his show...

dre saw what hey ya was doin nationally...not once did get big get called to perform the way u move..or ghettomusick...

everytime outkast got scheduled to a tv show or somethin they wanted hey ya,.,,didnt give a fukk about big...

dre even pissed off an staff at an awards show..because he sung prototype..n sent it str8 to big boi to perform...they forced him to comeback out to perform hey ya...

10 the hard way was suppose to drop..next...but jive got their contracts...n was forcin dre to put out a solo..since the love below was originally suppose to have been a solo...

but he didnt...he wanted to put the idlewild movie...that was originally suppose to been based off the album...

10 the hard way got put on the shelf... big boi workin on his solo...jive not givin a fukk about what big do...dre made them listen to the singles big had..the one he had with mary j..n the royal flush ft 3000 n raekwan..both became singles...

outkast had idlewild out jive didnt really promote it....jive was jus lookin 4 the next hey ya out of dre..n he would not budge...

son of chico dusty was ready...big got shelved...dre said fukk music..i do shyt when i wanna ..not when these nikkas want me to so they can whore me...thats how we been doin it..fukk the change..

dre let big perform on every show during the idlewild run..n he jus sat there...

big didnt take a loss really..he stayed even..he signed with ti...jive force grand hustle n atlantic hand into not releasin big album..

big signed with def jam...jive forced him to take the singles off the album and everything with andre 3000 voice on it...in order to even release the album he did it..n also release those songs on the internet..n told ppl where the songs belonged in original order...as a fukk u to jive...

big made money...didnt lose a step...

fast forward to this n last yr.. they finally did coachella..why when dre finally get back in the tourin bug..this happens



had dre did the opposite of everything i said..big boi wouldnt be dmc ..phife...latavia roberson status..

Makes me wonder if Jive owns the Outkast name as well. That could be a reason why he doesn't want to stand next to that brand I always hated that damn label anyway. I felt Mystikal could have been bigger over there and I heard Bun B air them out for bs too.

Another thing I just remembered as far as touring goes. I remember Cee-Lo said that Dre has stage fright but Dre came out and dispelled that.

 

[Chris Cool]

Makes me wonder if Jive owns the Outkast name as well. That could be a reason why he doesn't want to stand next to that brand I always hated that damn label anyway. I felt Mystikal could have been bigger over there and I heard Bun B air them out for bs too.

Another thing I just remembered as far as touring goes. I remember Cee-Lo said that Dre has stage fright but Dre came out and dispelled that.

on that first show it looked like dre did have stage fright. jive don't exist anymore. they at epic now, under la Reid.

 

[shopthatwrecks]

Makes me wonder if Jive owns the Outkast name as well. That could be a reason why he doesn't want to stand next to that brand I always hated that damn label anyway. I felt Mystikal could have been bigger over there and I heard Bun B air them out for bs too.

Another thing I just remembered as far as touring goes. I remember Cee-Lo said that Dre has stage fright but Dre came out and dispelled that.

nah jive saved mystikal..

mystikal made alot of money while on jive...mystikal made sure master p couldnt have his way with him...no limit died..mystikal got a lil bit bigger..

spice 1 ate good

e-40 did


they dont own the outkast name...they just thought they could cash in on the platinum n diamond albums outkast was pushin..and thought hey dre the mastermind..we can jus use him..n failed..

pimp c had it better than bun....at jive...pimp had a solo deal..production deal..n he had 2 groups signed to jive..v-12 boys (pimp boosie n webbie) and broad playas ( pimp n too short)

pimp kinda owed jprince..from the shyt he did from the kidnappin to the pen...so he made sure to let lil j eat...off of him...pimp was smart..he never put a solo album out...he put out compilations with other artist


everybody know pimp a throwed producer..why out of all those albums..pimp didnt even produce more than 4-5 songs ...u can go look too..

pimp let j eat where he wanted him to eat..recoup off that..

soon as pimp died j made sure he got that jewlery n those bentleys back..

pimp's wife is sittin on the product..that pimp kept from rap-a-lot..

bun cant really say shyt ....kuz its his fault....had they never made big pimpin... jive wouldnt have pressured ugk..to try n recreate that song on the dirty money album..

jive always was on some..if u can make it else where u better make it here..

jive pushed dirty money back so many times... n still didnt get the jay z feat

u would think would have return the favor..but he didnt..

took 4-5yrs for jay to even do it for bun...then the nikka didnt even show up for the video... but ugk made it to the island for his shyt...

jive made it seem like bb king was trippin...e-40 was trippin..run dmc was trippin on some of the samples..

but it wasnt ...jive tried censoring them...n tried dj quik'in ugk..meanin they cannot get outside work ...

pimp did what he wanted to ...had shyt ready for those trill azz mixes..n kept money..n did shyt under aliases..percy mack..tony snow..etc...


no matter how fukked up jive is...or was..ugk never gave rights to rap-a-lot...

they were jus signed as solo artist..n pimp was work for hire...

 

[Robbie3000]

after that first Coachella show that's basically what they did. i saw them in LA and that shyt was live as fukk. they didn't bring out people you mentioned, but they brought out slick Rick for art of story telling, bun b for international players, and killer Mike for whole world. shyt was dope.

I saw them in NY and ATL and it was live as fukk. Even at Coachella, Big's sets were dope as hell.

 

[Chris Cool]

I saw them in NY and ATL and it was live as fukk. Even at Coachella, Big's sets were dope as hell.

yeah shyt tripped me out how dre was saying touring was doing nothing for him. dude looked like he was having a blastx dude was dancing, joking with the crowd and shyt.

big boi called marc lamont hill (he tweeted the big boi set is when is when i stop paying attention or something like that) a bytch.

 

[shopthatwrecks]

yeah shyt tripped me out how dre was saying touring was doing nothing for him. dude looked like he was having a blastx dude was dancing, joking with the crowd and shyt.

big boi called marc lamont hill (he tweeted the big boi set is when is when i stop paying attention or something like that) a bytch.

it wasnt doin nuthin..once hey ya came ...crowd goes nuts..

alot of the new age fans didnt know shyt but hey ya...


when cee-lo was gnarls barkley..aloooooooooooooooooooootttttttttttt ppl didnt know cee-lo was in the goodie mob...

 

[Chris Cool]

it wasnt doin nuthin..once hey ya came ...crowd goes nuts..

alot of the new age fans didnt know shyt but hey ya...


when cee-lo was gnarls barkley..aloooooooooooooooooooootttttttttttt ppl didnt know cee-lo was in the goodie mob...

iyeah you right about that cee lo shyt. went to a big boi/cee lo concert in 2011. big boi shyt had the crowd rocking. i was probably the only dude who knew most the songs cee lo was doing. he started with the goodie mob. crowd was kinda dead during they set, some white dude yelled "do Kung fu fighting". shyt that annoyed me is they were doing songs that featured big boi and this nikka aint come out, even more annoying was that i could see him watching from the side of the stage. then did shyt from that stray bullets mixtape, crowd didn't know shyt from that neither. it wasn't until he started doing shyt from the lady killer that the crowd started moving. they got hype for crazy and fukk you though.

 

[phonthought3000]

he didnt jus didnt tour because he didnt feel like it..

big was makin noise with his singles on the urban side of music..

dre was makin noise where it count n the bigger picture...pretty much outside of the hood..


if u go back look at everything dealin with speakerboxx n the love below...u would have seem the industry was tryin 2 break the group up..david letterman got prolly the first n llast couple of perfomances from dre..

before hey ya ..u never seen outkast on letterman...leno..or ellen ..hell even regis had em on his show...

dre saw what hey ya was doin nationally...not once did get big get called to perform the way u move..or ghettomusick...

everytime outkast got scheduled to a tv show or somethin they wanted hey ya,.,,didnt give a fukk about big...

dre even pissed off an staff at an awards show..because he sung prototype..n sent it str8 to big boi to perform...they forced him to comeback out to perform hey ya...

10 the hard way was suppose to drop..next...but jive got their contracts...n was forcin dre to put out a solo..since the love below was originally suppose to have been a solo...

but he didnt...he wanted to put the idlewild movie...that was originally suppose to been based off the album...

10 the hard way got put on the shelf... big boi workin on his solo...jive not givin a fukk about what big do...dre made them listen to the singles big had..the one he had with mary j..n the royal flush ft 3000 n raekwan..both became singles...

outkast had idlewild out jive didnt really promote it....jive was jus lookin 4 the next hey ya out of dre..n he would not budge...

son of chico dusty was ready...big got shelved...dre said fukk music..i do shyt when i wanna ..not when these nikkas want me to so they can whore me...thats how we been doin it..fukk the change..

dre let big perform on every show during the idlewild run..n he jus sat there...

big didnt take a loss really..he stayed even..he signed with ti...jive force grand hustle n atlantic hand into not releasin big album..

big signed with def jam...jive forced him to take the singles off the album and everything with andre 3000 voice on it...in order to even release the album he did it..n also release those songs on the internet..n told ppl where the songs belonged in original order...as a fukk u to jive...

big made money...didnt lose a step...

fast forward to this n last yr.. they finally did coachella..why when dre finally get back in the tourin bug..this happens



had dre did the opposite of everything i said..big boi wouldnt be dmc ..phife...latavia roberson status..

Do u have that original tracklisting for Chico dusty been looking for it everywhere I had the album set by that tracklisting and lost it when my damn computer crashed

 

[Robbie3000]

iyeah you right about that cee lo shyt. went to a big boi/cee lo concert in 2011. big boi shyt had the crowd rocking. i was probably the only dude who knew most the songs cee lo was doing. he started with the goodie mob. crowd was kinda dead during they set, some white dude yelled "do Kung fu fighting". shyt that annoyed me is they were doing songs that featured big boi and this nikka aint come out, even more annoying was that i could see him watching from the side of the stage. then did shyt from that stray bullets mixtape, crowd didn't know shyt from that neither. it wasn't until he started doing shyt from the lady killer that the crowd started moving. they got hype for crazy and fukk you though.

Big Boi is a pro. Every time I've seen him, his set is always amazing. He just looks like he is having the time of his life on stage and that energy is contagious.

Marc Lamont was on the Combat Jack show talking about how he was angry that Big called him out.

He said he was looking for to holla at Big.

 

[Brofato]

Hey.

You are a performing artist..

Its for the fans.

You make hit songs...then you get tired of performing them..

What if YOUR fans got tired of hearing YOU as a artist....period...

Then you'd be complaining about nobody wants to hear your works of art...

I mean, it's not like he's obligated to do the shyt. Everyone seems to be worried about what he's doing when it seems like everyone in his life is pretty much cool with it.

Ok, I understand that. Then get all the waaaaay the fvck away from hip hop then. Don't do your lil overrated 2 verses a year on Rick Ross or Jeezy singles. Don't do the shows. Make it clear to Big Boi you don't wanna be a part of the game anymore, including doing shows. The last thing hip hop needs is a prominent, even legendary artist, going around projecting that he's embarrassed to be a elder statesman, and performer, within the artform. Sh!t like that is one of the reasons people that aren't fans of hip hop don't look at it seriously and don't respect it. These artsy n!ggas is weirdos but even Kanye weird ass don't act like he's embarrassed by hip hop.

I don't know about that last line. Lotta rappers be on that funny shyt acting like hip-hop is beneath them. It disgusts me, man. Ye was on a list right along with them. Mfers listen to one Radiohead album and think they're on some new shyt. It's understandable but annoying when they try to belittle hip-hop to big up other genres.

 

[HideoKojima]

Andre 3000 was never built for like limelight. He was having nervous breakdowns and stuff because of all the attention he was getting. I don't think he ever expected Outkast to blow like it did. I refused to attend those reunion tour dates. shyt was like seeing Ali fight past his prime

 

[Chris Cool]

Do u have that original tracklisting for Chico dusty been looking for it everywhere I had the album set by that tracklisting and lost it when my damn computer crashed

i couldn't find it either breh. found an interesting 08 tracklist though.

1. "Night Night"
2. "Something's Gotta Give" feat. Mary J. Blige
3. "Royal Flush" feat. Raekwon & Andre 3000
4. "For Your Sorrows" feat. George Clinton & Too Short
5. "Back Up Plan"
6. "Never Like This" feat. Ciara & Jadakiss
7. "Daddy Fat Sacks"
8. "Tambourine" feat. T.I.
9. "Sir Lucious Left Foot Saves the Day"
10. "Bust That" [Skit]
11. "Terrified"
12. "Dubs" feat. Backbone
13. "Hustle Blood"
14. "Hustle With Me" feat. Chris Brown (Bonus Track)

 

[FeloniousMonk]

I mean, it's not like he's obligated to do the shyt. Everyone seems to be worried about what he's doing when it seems like everyone in his life is pretty much cool with it.

Au contraire.

When he signed a contract he ACTUALLY became obligated to fulfil agreements based on said contract...one of those back in the day used t be touring to support the album..which you HAD to do..or label might not promote your album.

Yet now days, labels don't budget for tour support anymore, then you got AEG and Livenation buying up performance venues..the game is a lil diff.

But nope, as a man..Dre doesnt have to do shyt he doesnt want to do...yet as a artist...he has a lil bit more responsibility to his fans.