What's the Difference Between a Beat Maker and a Producer??
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Would someone mind explaining the two and then differentiate the people who are beat makers and the people who are producers?
OrbanTrilltor
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The quality of music 
Beat maker- one who manually makes the beat. They may not have a hand in the creation of the song besides making the beat.
Producer- may or may not have a hand in manually making the beat, but guides the overall direction of the creation of the track.
Producer- may or may not have a hand in manually making the beat, but guides the overall direction of the creation of the track.
so beat makers are sort of like..."ghost producers" then, right?
DaveyDave
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Hip hop is fairly unique because in a lot of cases they are the same person but from what I can tell in most other genres they will have a band eg: Chilli Peppers creating the song, playing the actual instruments etc and then they have Rick Rubin guiding them, making decisions about song structure or which take to use and guiding them to play at their best but he doesn't actually play anything in the song.
A lot of times in hip hop tho, a rapper will just get a beat and spit on it with no direction from the person who made the beat in the first place so it falls on the rapper themselves or maybe the engineer or something to guide the process. Sometimes that ends badly
A lot of times in hip hop tho, a rapper will just get a beat and spit on it with no direction from the person who made the beat in the first place so it falls on the rapper themselves or maybe the engineer or something to guide the process. Sometimes that ends badly
Quincy Jones and Lex Luger
most of the time, beatmakers sell their beats to producers for them to craft and arrange and produce an entire song for them. producers are the ones involved in the creative process of crafting a song together, and even at times are directly involved in managing the artists performance, such as the number of takes and re-takes to get his vocals correct. they're work with the engineers and other musicians to add extra elements to the beat and more the captain in putting the song together!
many so-called hiphop "producers" aren't really TRUE producers and merely beatmakers taking credit.
many so-called hiphop "producers" aren't really TRUE producers and merely beatmakers taking credit.
Producer= Dr Dre
Beatmaker=sizzle
Beatmaker=sizzle
If you listen to the new combat jack podcast with joe budden, this subject actually comes up, Just Blaze drops a quick explanation
Mac Casper
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The quality of music
This . .
A producer is someone who brings a vision to the table and helps move the song towards that vision.
A beat maker is someone who makes a beat
Mac Casper
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the cac mamba
Veteran
a producer can, for example, add a bicycle bell to a track and claim credit for it 
In hip hop it's basically the same thing - a producer usually makes the beat, a beatmaker is usually the producer of the song
A lot of the people who push the distinction argument are cats who feel the need to make excuses for why they don't do all of their own music
This whole "oh well I'm a real producer, it's okay if other cats make my music as long as I oversee the overall process" argument is really flawed IMO for a bunch of reasons and a lot of people who say it just sound insecure that they're not really that nice
The fans/amateur producers who repeat this argument are just sheep basically, they have no reason to promote that kind of excuse-making but they do it cuz of the first group (of producers who don't make good beats anymore) repeating it until it becomes "common knowledge"
A lot of the people who push the distinction argument are cats who feel the need to make excuses for why they don't do all of their own music
This whole "oh well I'm a real producer, it's okay if other cats make my music as long as I oversee the overall process" argument is really flawed IMO for a bunch of reasons and a lot of people who say it just sound insecure that they're not really that nice
The fans/amateur producers who repeat this argument are just sheep basically, they have no reason to promote that kind of excuse-making but they do it cuz of the first group (of producers who don't make good beats anymore) repeating it until it becomes "common knowledge"
Beat makers = the guys who make the beats
Producers = the guys who get the credit
Producers = the guys who get the credit