What's up with smarky crowds / internet fans shytting on the Cruiserweights

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WWE didn't present them right. It was just "here are some guys who do flippy shyt on purple ropes!"

Again, assuming their casual 1.5-2.5 MILLION weekly television fanbase watches that app.

Catering to smarks is going to be the downfall of pro wrestling. Imagine WCW putting the strap on Dean Malenko over Goldberg or Nash. That is exactly what WWE has done in the last three years.

Did you know that WCW commissioned a survey of its audience and WCW fans told them that they wanted to see Eddie Guerrero more. WCW promptly ignored the survey. Looks like the fans knew something.
 

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TSC's dunce cap weighing in. WWE brought in $658.8 million in 2015. Did you know thats the highest grossing year for any company in the history of wrestling? Did ya? Huh? Huh?

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Really tho, I don't know why people think the TV ratings are the end all be all to the company, compared to the MONEY they make overall. Sure, the ratings tie in, an they'd be making even more if they were doing 1999 numbers, but the 'downfall of pro wrestling' is not gonna be because Raw got a 2.2 or some shyt...
 
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TSC's dunce cap weighing in. WWE brought in $658.8 million in 2015. Did you know thats the highest grossing year for any company in the history of wrestling? Did ya? Huh? Huh?
It's not about how much you gross, it's about how much you net.

WCW had it's highest grossing years ever right before they folded.

The mortgage banks were all making record profits right before the housing crisis.

If they continue to put out a shytty product and continue to turn away the fanbase, it's not going to end well any way you slice it. the bubble is going to eventually burst, it has to.
 

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It's not about how much you gross, it's about how much you net.

WCW had it's highest grossing years ever right before they folded.

The mortgage banks were all making record profits right before the housing crisis.

If they continue to put out a shytty product and continue to turn away the fanbase, it's not going to end well any way you slice it.

Its all about what they gross in this circumstance because they're a monopoly and theres a multitude of places to cut if they ever needed to. WCW received $0 in television rights deals when they were hot and had a week to find a new channel when TNT cancelled them. This is not the same. USA has no other programming nowadays, WWE props up the station average, and theyll stay where they are as long as they do.
 
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Its all about what they gross in this circumstance because they're a monopoly and theres a multitude of places to cut if they ever needed to. WCW received $0 in television rights deals when they were hot and had a week to find a new channel when TNT cancelled them. This is not the same. USA has no other programming nowadays, WWE props up the station average, and theyll stay where they are as long as they do.

okay so how does WWE continue to flourish once nobody wants to watch them on tv anymore. the ratings have been going down every year pretty steadily. this time 2 years from now they might be under 2 million viewers.

then what.
 

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WWE's ratings were terrible 20 years ago, AND they were losing money, and were barely filling regular sized arenas for WrestleMania... that's when they were in danger of going under. By comparison, does anybody really believe they're in that same danger right now?
 

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okay so how does WWE continue to flourish once nobody wants to watch them on tv anymore. the ratings have been going down every year pretty steadily. this time 2 years from now they might be under 2 million viewers.

then what.

Cable television has experienced a uniform decline in viewership. In males 18-49, Raw was only behind Football and playoff baseball yesterday. A la carte is an inevitability for cable, but until then WWE will be as is.
 

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I think the division should have stayed on NXT

They should have not debuted on raw until they had a few months in nxt.
Raw has not presented them in a way that makes you care. And thes dudes with these generic ass names and looks are almost laughable. Tony near, drew goulak like get the fukk out of here, they look basic they have basic names and they don't talk. They don't even get an entrance why would you expect anyone to get excited for generic CAW number 57748?

And for the love of Christ put them on smackdown or just make cwc it's own show and cancel superstars
 

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okay so how does WWE continue to flourish once nobody wants to watch them on tv anymore. the ratings have been going down every year pretty steadily. this time 2 years from now they might be under 2 million viewers.

then what.

Plus it's rumored that fox sports 1 offered more $ than USA, but wwe chose USA because of its wider reach. WWE already took it losses in 13-14 building the network, now WWE Network is straight profit. Initially they wanted it to be basic cable, but they were forced to be ahead of the curve than anyone else that's gonna do the same thing and it's paying off greatly.
 

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I remember an article talking about Raw "dropping to a scary new low", which I think was a 3.4. It was back in 2003, and I think the lowest segment revolved around Kane :russ:they'd love a mid 3 right now, even with all the streaming services .
 
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