BlueHeffner
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Good point
Whats up with Todd Gurley?
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let these dudes continue to play dumb... its what cowboys fans do best when it comes to their players
switch gurley with zeke on each team and the numbers are reversed
Mediocre O-line and no defense respects Case Keenum.. along with a little too much hype too early.
There is a reason Belichek paid McCourty but did not spend on RBs. It's harder to find a safety is his calilber than a RB of his caliber. Guys like Zeke are game changers no doubt, but the main game changer is the offensive line. The Cowboys aren't giving nikkas any formula. They have a dominant O-line and very good RB behind it. Very few teams have the combination of a very good offensive line, a capable QB and capable RB. When you have that, teams have to plan for everything. That requires losing while having talented offensive players on your team (Romo, Witten, etc.). If they were consistently going deep in the playoffs despite their talent like New England then all of a sudden those picks on linemen aren't there. The Cowboys would not even be in that position without injuries. Teams that talented on offense aren't supposed to have a top 5 pick.
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Labadi_Mantse
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Yet you cannot name a team that's won a super bowl or been playing in january lately without an elite QB, secondary/pass rush and a solid down field passing game. RB has been irrelevant. Look at the RBs from the last few SB winning teams. As I alluded to earlier aside from Marshawn who else is even in the realm of elite? When was the last time the league leading rusher won a championship? When AP and CJ2K went for 2K how did their teams do come play off time? Darrelle Revis, Richard Sherman, Aqib Talib, Josh Norman, and Patick Peterson arguably the best DBs in the league right now have all won super bowls, played in a super bowl or been in a conference championship game. Do you think that's an accident? Go down the list of top rushers and compare. It's not even a comparable.
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Labadi_Mantse
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The league is a passing league now. You cannot revise history or natural progression. The last 5 super bowl winners have had elite secondaries, a solid pass rush, and an elite QB. The RB position has been irrelevant. Doesnt take away from how damn good zeke is but dont start twisting reality because you're feeling good about your early season success.
You say this like the Cowboys are a perennial top 5-10 team in the draft. Of the 5 starters on the line only one was drafted in the top 10. Travis Frederick was drafted No. 31 overall, Zack Martin No. 16, Doug Free in the 4th round, and Ronald Leary undrafted. They've just nailed their picks on the line without reaching + scouting
sounds like you're willing to accept an avi betpassive aggressive ass posting
get ready for the L on sunday fukkboy
Spade
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Do not 100% agree with this. The blocking scheme period has worked for Elliott but are people expecting somebody to have 1000 yards 6 games into the season? Not to mention, Tyron Smith was out a couple games as well and Collins went on IR.
Still tripping the thread turned into the Cowboys o line and Zeke 
, like neither had nothing to do with Gurley balling out last year 
, like neither had nothing to do with Gurley balling out last year They have three first round draft picks on their O-line. A center is that goes in round 1 is usually a no-brainer prospect. Moreover, Leary was graded as a third round prospect and only went undrafted because off his injury. He lost the starting job to Collins who was a consensus top 10 pick before his criminal investigation. Leary is only starting because of Collins' injury. So even their lower signed guys were top prospects. You're giving the Cowboys credit for taking a risk. That's like acting like Rob Gronkowski didn't drop to the second round solely because of his back issues. The Cowboys began the season with essentially four first rounders on their offensive line.
BlueHeffner
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The Cowboys were a botched call away from making the NFC Championship game with no pass rush and average-below average corners.
I agree that you need a good defense, but you dont need an elite secondary (See 2011 Giants, 2010 Packers, 2009 Saints, 2012 Ravens).
Also, how can you say the position is irrelevant? Zeke is an MVP candidate right now as well as OPOY.
When was the last time a CB won MVP? (Never)
DPOY? (2009)
He wasn't received as a "no-brainer" prospect by analysts when the pick was made. But the pick turned out to be a stud so we have this revisionist history. I dont understand why its so hard for you cats to give credit when credit is due, the QB, RB, and OL are all working in conjunction with each other. It seems easy to acknowledge that but all I'm seeing is the Juelz gif