I heard Ether the DAY it came out. I remember downloading the shyt off line via DSL.
It wasn't better to me then.
Its not better to me now.
Never was impressed with it.
Takeover always seemed better executed.
When did Jay Z surpass Nas to you?
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It wasn't better to me then.
Its not better to me now.
Never was impressed with it.
Takeover always seemed better executed.
pointproven214
i speak facts not emotions
nas is a better mc then jay-z easily on it was written.
...at what?
Not rhymes. Not metaphors. Not swagger. Not punchlines. Not song structure. Not production.
I mean Nas can meander his way around a verse but he doesn't have any real style to it.
Breh, Jay has never been as nice lyrically as IWW era Nas. And that's not even a diss to Jay at all.
pointproven214
i speak facts not emotions
the bolded has nothing to do with mcing
second nas got better more complex rhyme schemes then jigga metaphors they even but wordplay jay-z gets the nod
punchlines nas better with that imo jay-z has better hooks then nas
nas overall is better then jigga.
Jay was always nicer on the mic. I really don't know what y'all are hearing.
Nas COULD NOT do what Jay does.
Jay can do what Nas does.
Yes it does.
Getting your point off has always been core to being a good MC. Being more complex doesn't matter if its muddled with aimless lyrics.
Hov has always been about "more is less" with his rhymes. Thats how you know most of these dudes are weak on the mic. Just filling up space, not real attention to the core message of whatever their verse is about.
Nas has no punchlines better than Hov. Stop it. Hov damn near inventing triple and quadruple entendres out here.
Kill yourself.
Huh? Jay could never do a song like Shootouts, and be that descriptive with his storytelling. He would never think to write something as abstract as Silent Murder. You would have to be the biggest Jay stan in the world to sincerely believe that there's NOTHING that Nas can do better than Jay.
pointproven214
i speak facts not emotions
bullshyt being more complex i can say gets you more points on rap message boards and on the internet in general
second jay-z is a monosyllable rapper for the most part he sometimes rhyme multi-syllabic rhyme patterns.
sometimes he rather focus on clever lines then wowing people with his vocab.
as a writer myself fundamentally rhyming more then one syllable on a consistent basis and doing it in way where your telling a story make sense and be complex with the metaphors wordplay etc it's hard to do that for a entire verse
very few mc's can do that.
and entendres are not a literary technique imo and nas does have better punchlines then jigga imo fukk out of here with that bullshyt !!!!!!!!!!
richaveli83
Veteran
Never has and never will. 
Nas has one flow; offbeat :Jimmy:
pointproven214
i speak facts not emotions
lmao nas has better meter rhyming on the kick and the snare then jigga
better syncopated flows rhymes to faster bpms syllable count then jigga fukk out of her!!!!!
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