When did the mlk was a c00n talk start.

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"I fear I may have integrated my people into a burning house." -MLK

This is the most correct thing he said in his lifetime.



Brother Malcolm explains why people would call MLK a c00n. Start at 9:45 but I'd suggest you listen to the whole thing. (Entire speech is called "Message to the Grassroots.")

This rhetoric didn't start in the 90's it has been around since MLK has been around.



Tell us exactly what King meant with that statement...
 

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Tell us exactly what King meant with that statement...

“And I’m afraid that even as we integrate, we are walking into a place that does not understand that this nation needs to be deeply concerned with the plight of the poor and disenfranchised. Until we commit ourselves to ensuring that the underclass is given justice and opportunity, we will continue to perpetuate the anger and violence that tears at the soul of this nation.”
 
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He said the house negro fought to put the fire out, while the field negro prayed for a wind.


and he was incorrect..... there wasn't any real divide between house and field slaves on most plantations.... some of the larger plantations may have been bold enough to have some of the slavemaster's offspring working in the house....... the main divide was between slaves who wanted freedom and those who didn't... regardless of their respective role on the plantation
 

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It's crazy he would say that considering king was actually out in the streets marching getting arrrested and beat up by cops for his cause. While I can't find any footage of malcom with feet on the ground. but MLK is the soft one.

Unlike King, Malcolm wasn't getting paid to do Marches...
Neither of them are soft tho..
The whole Malcolm vs Martin thing is pointless..
They both was gone be on one accord in 1965
Malcolm said that Pre 1964..
 
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and he was incorrect..... there wasn't any real divide between house and field slaves on most plantations.... some of the larger plantations may have been bold enough to have some of the slavemaster's offspring working in the house....... the main divide was between slaves who wanted freedom and those who didn't... regardless of their respective role on the plantation

Slaves wanted freedom. That was the overwhelming majority. Slavery wasn't a nice thing. Being beaten day and night, seeing your mother's and sisters raped by white men, no human wants that. Listen to the songs sung by slaves. They were about hope and freedom.

House slaves would have been more content in theory because they had a preferential status over field slaves.
 
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“And I’m afraid that even as we integrate, we are walking into a place that does not understand that this nation needs to be deeply concerned with the plight of the poor and disenfranchised. Until we commit ourselves to ensuring that the underclass is given justice and opportunity, we will continue to perpetuate the anger and violence that tears at the soul of this nation.”


So what's your overall point for quoting the burning house statement? And you still haven't told me what you think he meant by saying that..... you just upped another quote.....
 

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So what's your overall point for quoting the burning house statement? And you still haven't told me what you think he meant by saying that..... you just upped another quote.....

My overall point is that black nationalism should have taken priority over this idealistic integration issue.

That quote is King explaining what he meant by a burning house. What I think he meant doesn't matter because he explained what he meant.
 

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I think you need to be able to speak from a higher point before you can call anyone a c00n. A lot of nikkas say they about it, but ain't no one trying to risk their own security to do anything.
 
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House slaves would have been more content in theory because they had a preferential status over field slaves.

We dealing with "theory" now.... ? :pachaha:

My overall point is that black nationalism should have taken priority over this idealistic integration issue.

That quote is King explaining what he meant by a burning house. What I think he meant doesn't matter because he explained what he meant.

If you're saying that he explained what he meant, then why did you even up that statement to be discussed.... cause it's patently clear that it doesn't have shyt to do with integration, but the current trajectory of American economics.... riddle me this... How does an oppressed people with no resources,no collective high earning potential, no access to infrastructure or the means to build their own.. practice black nationalism?
 

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We dealing with "theory" now.... ? :pachaha:



If you're saying that he explained what he meant, then why did you even up that statement to be discussed.... cause it's patently clear that it doesn't have shyt to do with integration, but the current trajectory of American economics.... riddle me this... How does an oppressed people with no resources,no collective high earning potential, no access to infrastructure or the means to build their own.. practice black nationalism?

It follows the logic. Why would field slaves who are beaten constantly and forced to work in the sun, as a collective, want freedom less than house slaves who are treated better than them? Slaves don't want to be slaves. Some may feel it is the best option considering they know nothing else. But if they could be truly free that's what they would want. That's human nature. Today lightskin black american women on average probably do not think colorism is as big of an issue as their dark skin counterparts. That's not a wild statement to say considering who has an elevated status in America and the experiences they face.









It has everything to do with integration. Race cannot be left out of class analysis. African were trafficked to America to provide capital for the state and the private sector. That's the relationship between African Americans and the state. So if America can't even do things for it's white population currently dying of fentanyl overdose, what makes you think they will care for African Americans? Integrating into a house like that is a mistake. During that time Malcolm spoke of black nationalism there had been several black wall streets. Black nationalism can be practiced by black economic nationalism. Go out of your way to buy black. Stop buying from Asian and Arab merchants in your black majority area if there black alternatives. Especially on holidays when I buy gifts I only buy from black owned vendors online. That's where you start.
 

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My overall point is that black nationalism should have taken priority over this idealistic integration issue.

That quote is King explaining what he meant by a burning house. What I think he meant doesn't matter because he explained what he meant.
I don’t want to give my seat cuz there are too many white people on the bus or have to stay at a third cousins house cuz hotels won’t admit me. No nononline black person does. Anybody saying otherwise is white pretending to be black. Stfu with all this integration was a mistake nonsense, you obviously have no clue how much it sucked to second class citizens legally.
 
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