when nikkas gone stop acting like Biggie was innocent?

[spliz]

in all honesty.. who cares how Big acted to Pac when he was here..? thats actually petty to even discuss.. he didnt owe that man the attention he so badly wanted.. oh well.. you think it wouldve had some crazy shift, and they'd both still be around..? i really dont even understand why that matters..

they didnt like each other.. thats the bottom line..

What matters is I think the shyt was cowardly. He was tryna recruit nikkas to diss Pac on the low and tryna hide his hands to make like Pac was crazy. He also wrote a diss towards Pac thru a damn woman rather than himself. That coward shyt to me fam. Yet this nikka dies and u got balls all of a sudden. But fukk it. I already said that’s not even my main issue. My main issue is people try to paint Biggie as innocent and like he NEVER did any of this shyt. Snoop and DPG would be memories if shyt didnt go down the way it did and that would be all Biggie’s fault. Yet this nikka gets painted as a saint thru the whole east/west beef.

 

[spliz]

he just tried to sneak that gun charge in there like nobody would notice.

The guns cops found in the hotel room with the Ayana situation shyt was Biggie’s guns but Pac never snitched on Biggie. I dont believe he was charged for them tho.

 

[spliz]

How do you know Big has any info on the Quad robbery? Why should he see Pac in jail? He’s not his life long friend they knew each other for a few months? A couple of years maybe? What gun charges did Pac take for Big?

Biggie was stupid going to LA so soon after PACs death but nothing more than that IMO.

So he wasnt stupid for hanging with the set of nikkas who murdered Pac and dissing him live on LA radio? His only mistake was BEING in LA right? See this is the type of bullshyt I be talkin bout. nikkas tryna act like Biggie aint ever pull no sucka shyt. So Biggie aint REALLY set this coastal shyt off wit sending nikkas to shoot up DPG trailer?

 

[Kinguno]

Biggie was a horrible person low-key with a lot his mother gave him money but he still wanted to sell crack, he cheated on Faith, that lil Kim situation is suspect with him having her get an abortion, and his verses post Pac's death

Also the line "Destiny lays in my hand" from Victory the last song he recorded was about Nas's daughter who was a toddler at the time

Tupac was more conflicted in his soul the whole set up for the rape case, the situation with labels, the shooting the cops, the studio shooting which could have been a way to silence him, the movies, his mother, and so much more

Both made good music but both did some sucker shyt

History is written by the winners and with the damage we all lost

They died before 26 imagine if LeBron or Kobe never made it past 26

 

[hustlemania]

What matters is I think the shyt was cowardly. He was tryna recruit nikkas to diss Pac on the low and tryna hide his hands to make like Pac was crazy. He also wrote a diss towards Pac thru a damn woman rather than himself. That coward shyt to me fam. Yet this nikka dies and u got balls all of a sudden. But fukk it. I already said that’s not even my main issue. My main issue is people try to paint Biggie as innocent and like he NEVER did any of this shyt. Snoop and DPG would be memories if shyt didnt go down the way it did and that would be all Biggie’s fault. Yet this nikka gets painted as a saint thru the whole east/west beef.

interesting..

so if its cowardly to recruit people to diss Pac.. how do you feel about The Outlawz..? and, Pac trying to get Snoop & them to diss Big..?

actually.. Death Row as a label was gonna go at Big, but i guess that doesnt count as recruiting people..

also.. speaking of cowardly.. how do you feel about Pac going after BIg.. instead of the person who he knew set him up..?

 

[hustlemania]

The guns cops found in the hotel room with the Ayana situation shyt was Biggie’s guns but Pac never snitched on Biggie. I dont believe he was charged for them tho.

know what.. im done with this thread.. this shyt about to ruin my blunt..

 

[UserNameless]

This

I've said before that I thought Pac embraced Biggie more than Biggie embraced Pac on a personal level. It seemed like behind closed doors, Pac would refer to Big as his friend, nikka, homie etc. But I never got the same from Big. To me it seemed like Pac was just "aight" to Biggie in a sense

Pac referred to Big as his nikka in this freestyle when he didn't have to. Granted that Pac was really freestyling and Biggie wasn't



I don't know if Big knew more than he said he did but it also didn't help that Biggie said Pac shot himself and that everything was a movie to Pac. If that was my so called "friend" I would be upset also. fukk if he knew anything or not

When Pac died and Biggie was interviewed about it he said "I feel for his moms but you know we just got to move on". I know that shyt between them wasn't the same but if my "friend" who taught me shyt in the music industry died this wouldn't be the response



Seemed like Biggie was relieved that Pac was gone as the whole east coast was. Which is why I think he thought it was ok to be in Cali

I remember watching that interview as a youngin thinking he came off so nonchalant and damn near victorious ... the energy was just on some shyt for me


Rip to both ... still young and trying to maneuver among evil forces .

 

[spliz]

interesting..

so if its cowardly to recruit people to diss Pac.. how do you feel about The Outlawz..? and, Pac trying to get Snoop & them to diss Big..?

actually.. Death Row as a label was gonna go at Big, but i guess that doesnt count as recruiting people..

also.. speaking of cowardly.. how do you feel about Pac going after BIg.. instead of the person who he knew set him up..?

False equivalency. Pac was on the track as well. It was cowardly cause Biggie was tryna be sneaky about it and hide his hands. It was cowardly for the nikka to wait till the nikka dies to diss the nikka out his own mouth. It was cowardly to use a woman as the mouthpiece to diss the nikka u beefin wit. Rather than do it urself. Also. As far as Pac and Jimmy. I already addressed this. Pac went at Jimmy n Jack in the Vibe interview and they changed the names. Who knows what he said in the Angie interview cause she wont release it. And he came at them directly on 7 Day Theory but he was dead by the time of release. Lets stop acting like Pac never said they names and only aimed at Biggie. Pac BEEN saying they names. Went to Death Row cause of common enemy reasons. Recruited nikkas like Eric B and other street heavy nikkas on the east coast. Seems like the nikka was ready to go to war wit them nikkas to me.

 

[spliz]

know what.. im done with this thread.. this shyt about to ruin my blunt..

How? nikka thats a fact. Look it up. Biggie left his guns in Pac’s hotel room. Lil Cease can even confirm that.

 

[Sunalmighty]

insont believe he had anything to do with the Quad studio, but his actions after were fukked up.

He refused to tell pac who was behind it even though he knew, he never went to see pac in prison, he went on radio and got the dogg pound video shoot shot up and after Pac died he came to California freestyling long kiss goodnight.

Big dug his own coffin just like Pac did.

Pac took Big under his wing and gave him game and took gun charges for him. Big owed him a higher level of loyalty. If the roles were reversed Pac would have rolled out for Big even if he cost him his life.

i think he was innocent. i mean, did he not warn Pac about cats like king tut and hatian jack? regarding the shooting at quad studios, either big knew about it and didn't want to get involved or they threatened to kill him if he spoke about it. but it was arrogant of big to be in California after pac got murdered. that was very careless on bad boy records.

 

[N*E*R*D]

We going to be nursing homes arguing about this shyt lol.

 

[Bigblackted4]

New York nikkas love playing victim

 

[Premeditated]

Iono bout all that but I'll say this.

Pac was sure a better human being than Biggie though

 

[King Poetic]

The bigger question

Why New York hasn't taken out Puffy

Puffy after pac was dead and suge was in jail was all... We can go back to L.A. here after only 6 months and don't have to worried about shyt cause Southside has our back and we can't be stopped.

nikka was feeling himself so much he had no clue about L.A. gang shyt...

Ended up killing biggie just because he wanted to come out here and look like a big shot...


Only thing i blame Snoop for is calling biggie and puffy your homeboys...biggie called for nikkas to shoot up your trailer and u want to go smoke weed with them.

 

[LJLYDK!]

BIG innocent dont make me laugh.

Who put you on. Pac. then you turn round & shyt on him like hes nothing to you? sucka shyt.


Hang with Jack, Tut, Henchman,
Crips holdin' you down
Quad Studios
Ready to Die - Stole the whole style & concept for this album from Pac.
Put out who shot ya after quad. tastefull
Dont visit ya boy in jail after hes shot and locked down.
Diss ya boy with fruitpop Puff when hes locked down in magazines & shyt
Freestyle in 97 on the radio after Pac dead.
DPG trailer shooutout.
Diss Pac on LAD after he's dead.

And thats just a small list

But yeah Big is innocent.

Come the fukk on NY