when nikkas gone stop acting like Biggie was innocent?

[Poh SIti Dawn]

Why does puffy get thr blame for all of this. Biggie his own person.

 

[Reece]

Nikka please. That nikka got you shot. Pac was all about this “he gonna do this and gonna do that” jimmy was in LA plenty of times. Why not run up on him? fukking bad boy money up by giving more attention to bad boy cause even after biggie, how many hits did puffy label put out?this is what I mean when I say young and dumb. You want beef go find Jimmy or the nikkas that shot you and kill, stop yapping about biggie, making videos/songs dissing him, trying to start problems with him when you know who shot you you idiot. Jimmy was probably laughing at Pac throughout that whole east vs west cause Pac knew better not to try that shyt to him before he get ass lit up again

That's literally what 50 Cent did to Ja Rule though. fukked up Supreme's money by going at Ja.

 

[Cheech&Chong]

I love it. People saying how could we possibly know what pac would do. You weren't there blah blah blah

How do you know what he wouldn't do?

Dude was in and out of jail and the court system his whole life, for violent crimes. He fukking shot at two dudes for messing with a stranger. Stop it with this wanna be gang banger shyt, dude lived it. Anyone can get murdered

 

[Benefited]

so why not put all the energy into jimmy? At the end of the day it was jimmy who got you shot. Biggie had nothing to do with that shyt and pac knew it. No excuses for him making it all about biggie when knew who did it and Jimmy Walked LA Peacefully. suge and Pac mentioned record sales plenty of times. Of course jimmy wasn’t no rapper. Suge used biggie for record sales and the situation got worse when the media got involved. No matter what Pac felt about biggie, if he was all for get back, take that energy to the nikkas that got you shot.
Nothing you or anybody else can say to change that. That’s like a nikka slap you and you make it all about his friend instead of the actual nikka that slapped you. What type of shyt is that? Ever once did I hear of jimmy living in fear of vengeance.

Didnt 2pac explain this on Against All Odds record?

"You told me not to go to war unless I got my money right.Well now I got my money right and now I want war"

Do you guys listen to the music or skim through it.If thats not putting energy into a known killer I dont know what is lol.Pretty sure he couldn't have just made that type of threat to Jimmy in passing.

 

[50CentStan]

This

I've said before that I thought Pac embraced Biggie more than Biggie embraced Pac on a personal level. It seemed like behind closed doors, Pac would refer to Big as his friend, nikka, homie etc. But I never got the same from Big. To me it seemed like Pac was just "aight" to Biggie in a sense

Pac referred to Big as his nikka in this freestyle when he didn't have to. Granted that Pac was really freestyling and Biggie wasn't



I don't know if Big knew more than he said he did but it also didn't help that Biggie said Pac shot himself and that everything was a movie to Pac. If that was my so called "friend" I would be upset also. fukk if he knew anything or not

When Pac died and Biggie was interviewed about it he said "I feel for his moms but you know we just got to move on". I know that shyt between them wasn't the same but if my "friend" who taught me shyt in the music industry died this wouldn't be the response



Seemed like Biggie was relieved that Pac was gone as the whole east coast was. Which is why I think he thought it was ok to be in Cali

Well I think Pac was a BIG stan. And big knew Pac wasn't as nice on the Mic as him, But he was established, and he was willing to use whoever whatever as a stepping stone in the rap game.

 

[Benefited]

and it was the same nikkas too... dexter issac said it was jimmy n puff both times..

quad studio AND the dogg pound trailer shooting...

but once they got involved wit the crips i think snoop fell in line...

no wonder some of the mob nikkas pissed at suge..

cuz they felt like they was dragged into a beef that had nothing to do with em

Good point about Snoop falling in line as a crip.

Plus we gotta remember Pac and Snoop fell out.Snoop mustve really not liked Pac at some point to be cool with a nikka who almost got him and his cousin killed. Snoop experienced being on Pacs bad side though and probably related to Biggie

 

[DaveyDave]

So he wasnt stupid for hanging with the set of nikkas who murdered Pac and dissing him live on LA radio? His only mistake was BEING in LA right? See this is the type of bullshyt I be talkin bout. nikkas tryna act like Biggie aint ever pull no sucka shyt. So Biggie aint REALLY set this coastal shyt off wit sending nikkas to shoot up DPG trailer?

Yeah being in LA so soon after Pac dying was extremely stupid, performing shyt like he did was even worse. I don’t think he went to the hood and chilled with whoever killed Pac, just because Puff organised crips to provide security doesn’t mean BIG was cool with it or that he knew anyone who was supposed to be protecting them. He was young, arrogant and trusted Puff too much. Pac was the instigator and there is now way you can deny that. BIG should have been a man and confronted Pac about whatever he was blaming him for but I don’t think it would hve mattered to Pac because he thought he was right and he had Suge backing him up and feeding him bullshyt.

 

[LJLYDK!]

Im going going back back to Cali Cali... and look where that got you.

 

[Reggie]

BIG wasn't the instigator but he wasn't innocent at all. After Pac died he should have been more humble even if he wouldn't have sincerely meant it. To go to Cali where Pac was loved by millions was just some dumb shyt in itself. Aint like LAD still wouldn't have sold millions of records. Especially with I'm actually ALIVE to push more of the songs that could have been singles.

 

[oO J Smooth Oo]

BIG innocent dont make me laugh.

Who put you on. Pac. then you turn round & shyt on him like hes nothing to you? sucka shyt.


Hang with Jack, Tut, Henchman,
Crips holdin' you down
Quad Studios
Ready to Die - Stole the whole style & concept for this album from Pac.
Put out who shot ya after quad. tastefull
Dont visit ya boy in jail after hes shot and locked down.
Diss ya boy with fruitpop Puff when hes locked down in magazines & shyt
Freestyle in 97 on the radio after Pac dead.
DPG trailer shooutout.
Diss Pac on LAD after he's dead.

And thats just a small list

But yeah Big is innocent.

Come the fukk on NY

ready to die stole the style and concept from pacs album?

explain breh

 

[scarhead]

Yeah being in LA so soon after Pac dying was extremely stupid, performing shyt like he did was even worse. I don’t think he went to the hood and chilled with whoever killed Pac, just because Puff organised crips to provide security doesn’t mean BIG was cool with it or that he knew anyone who was supposed to be protecting them. He was young, arrogant and trusted Puff too much. Pac was the instigator and there is now way you can deny that. BIG should have been a man and confronted Pac about whatever he was blaming him for but I don’t think it would hve mattered to Pac because he thought he was right and he had Suge backing him up and feeding him bullshyt.

Big, also on record, literally bragged about his team being "Marine Blue".
Southside Crips are well known for wearing Seattle Mariners hat.

Add to that, OG crip Zip was Big's daughter's godfather and Big's muscle "C" Gutta, who beefed with Jim Jones is a crip.
It's fair to say Big was crip-affiliated heavy to say the least and they put battery on his back to the point where he felt comfortable enough to go to LA and drop the Long Kiss verse.

Pac gets criticized for being gassed up and affiliating himself with Bloods in his mid 20's.
Big did exactly the same, just with a different gang.

Oh, and you can't say Big wasn't an instigator either with the Dogg Pound trailer thing.
It wasn't directly aimed at Pac but my point is that Big wasn't this chill dude who only reacted when got dissed first.

 

[CoryMack]

This

I've said before that I thought Pac embraced Biggie more than Biggie embraced Pac on a personal level. It seemed like behind closed doors, Pac would refer to Big as his friend, nikka, homie etc. But I never got the same from Big. To me it seemed like Pac was just "aight" to Biggie in a sense

Pac referred to Big as his nikka in this freestyle when he didn't have to. Granted that Pac was really freestyling and Biggie wasn't



I don't know if Big knew more than he said he did but it also didn't help that Biggie said Pac shot himself and that everything was a movie to Pac. If that was my so called "friend" I would be upset also. fukk if he knew anything or not

When Pac died and Biggie was interviewed about it he said "I feel for his moms but you know we just got to move on". I know that shyt between them wasn't the same but if my "friend" who taught me shyt in the music industry died this wouldn't be the response



Seemed like Biggie was relieved that Pac was gone as the whole east coast was. Which is why I think he thought it was ok to be in Cali

You gotta realize alotta bigs actions were playing cool for the cameras. Just like these youngsters today on social media who play cool around serious situations and end up paying for it.

Alone behind the scenes they were both probably scared as hell.

 

[CoryMack]

Big, also on record, literally bragged about his team being "Marine Blue".
Southside Crips are well known for wearing Seattle Mariners hat.

Add to that, OG crip Zip was Big's daughter's godfather and Big's muscle "C" Gutta, who beefed with Jim Jones is a crip.
It's fair to say Big was crip-affiliated heavy to say the least and they put battery on his back to the point where he felt comfortable enough to go to LA and drop the Long Kiss verse.

Pac gets criticized for being gassed up and affiliating himself with Bloods in his mid 20's.
Big did exactly the same, just with a different gang.

Oh, and you can't say Big wasn't an instigator either with the Dogg Pound trailer thing.
It wasn't directly aimed at Pac but my point is that Big wasn't this chill dude who only reacted when got dissed first.

Gotta is a crip? Ain't he one of bigs day ones? I didn't know they were on that shyt in ny back when big was alive.

 

[DaveyDave]

Big, also on record, literally bragged about his team being "Marine Blue".
Southside Crips are well known for wearing Seattle Mariners hat.

Add to that, OG crip Zip was Big's daughter's godfather and Big's muscle "C" Gutta, who beefed with Jim Jones is a crip.
It's fair to say Big was crip-affiliated heavy to say the least and they put battery on his back to the point where he felt comfortable enough to go to LA and drop the Long Kiss verse.

Pac gets criticized for being gassed up and affiliating himself with Bloods in his mid 20's.
Big did exactly the same, just with a different gang.

Oh, and you can't say Big wasn't an instigator either with the Dogg Pound trailer thing.
It wasn't directly aimed at Pac but my point is that Big wasn't this chill dude who only reacted when got dissed first.

Good points

 

[AMcV'88]

i was eight then nine when both of these artists died...but i saw Notorious.

Christopher was a lovely young man that just wanted to change the world.
to this day i still have no idea why Tupac had such venom towards him instead of the real underworld criminals involved.

such a tragedy.