when nikkas gone stop acting like Biggie was innocent?

[Knicksman20]

Why? so big could get killed instead? Remember Pac said Big was suppose to tell him what was going to happen and then Pac got shot no soon after. Nobody knows the context of why Big didn’t tell him the first time he warned him. Maybe some dudes was around, maybe he knew Pac was a big mouth who would tell the world(which he eventually did) so he was second guessing. You felt “betrayed” by a nikka you only knew for a couple years, so you make it all about him but never one story about death row running down on jimmy henchmen or his people?

I’m sorry but this says more about Pac and his mind process than it does biggie. Nikka you know who did it, you were in jail in NY, go do something to them nikkas instead of using east vs west to sell records

There’s no excuse you can make to spin it. Biggie was not this nikkas childhood friend, neither did he owe Pac his life. Even if he was, that shyt shouldn’t of been more important than payback against henchmen squad, but it was to him. All these death row stories for 20 something years and not ONE story about death row instilling fear of GAWD into jimmy henchmen.

No one besides Pac has ever said or implied Big had any knowledge he was gonna get robbed when he got to the Quad. That was either Pac’s paranoia or he just flat out lied. And Big ended up allegedly getting robbed because Pac went back & told them nikkas Big warned him not to fukk with them

 

[spliz]

No one besides Pac has ever said or implied Big had any knowledge he was gonna get robbed when he got to the Quad. That was either Pac’s paranoia or he just flat out lied. And Big ended up allegedly getting robbed because Pac went back & told them nikkas Big warned him not to fukk with them

Only one who ever said this happened was Little Shawn and that shyt should be taken with a grain of salt.

 

[Whogivesafuck]

Idk, maybe the nikkas who shot him or affiliated to them

Pac should have put money on his head. nikkas would have took him up on it.

 

[hustlemania]

biggie didn't do nothing to pac while he was alive
not one thing
all the bullshyt and negativity was coming from pac

only thing that is even a debate is how biggie dealt with the pac situation after his death. The interviews, the songs etc. some of that was in poor taste

but by the time everything was over, i think biggie really hated that nikka, and i dont really blame him

thats basically all it really comes down to..

cats in here really acting like Big was supposed to respect someone who was so blatantly disrespectful to him, and his seed.. fukked his wife.. publically involved his name in a shooting.. thats some seriously foul sh!t..

 

[spliz]

Pac knew exactly who got at him, why would he need Big to tell him?

And why would Big go see Pac in jail after Pac said in the Vibe interview, 2 months after he got locked up, that Bad Boy had something to do with Quad and dry snitched the whole interview?

Tupac Vibe Magazine April 1995(unedited)

nikka that was afterwards fam. Pac had been tryna get the real scoop on what was going on for a minute prior to the Vibe interview and he had people telling him different things till he found out the real truth. Biggie damn near abandoned him, didnt visit or nothing when he was locked up. Then them nikkas was tryna make him look crazy in the media. Mix that with Who Shot Ya and this is why Pac had an issue wit Biggie. He also said he didnt want Biggie to snitch and tell him who did it if he was scared to but he did feel that Biggie knew what was gonna happen and should’ve gave him the scoop so he wouldnt have even went down there and end up in that situation. Pac has said all of this shyt out of his own mouth. People act like Pac didn’t directly try to come at Jimmy n them but he did and media outlets like Vibe switched the names around to protect him. Not only that but we still aint even heard the Angie interview that she holding hostage cause she said it would ruffle too many feathers. Which is why by the time Makaveli dropped he was saying names n all that. On the low Pac was reaching out to all kinda east coast heavyweights to back him up. Like Eric B for instance. Pac was def preparing himself for some shyt.

 

[Knicksman20]

Only one who ever said this happened was Little Shawn and that shyt should be taken with a grain of salt.

You know why I lean towards believing him bro. He’s only spoke about all this maybe once or twice in the 20+ years this happened. And I know you know Henchmen is the type of nikka to do that shyt too. It’s not like Big’s camp could ever confirm this happened without implicating Henchmen & causing street level problems

 

[spliz]

thats basically all it really comes down to..

cats in here really acting like Big was supposed to respect someone who was so blatantly disrespectful to him, and his seed.. fukked his wife.. publically involved his name in a shooting.. thats some seriously foul sh!t..

Both them nikkas had reasons to hate eachother but my issue wit Biggie is that he faked like he loved Pac even after his death. Meanwhile while Pac was here he was tryna recruit nikkas like Nas to help diss Pac on the low. Writing diss tracks for Lil Kim to diss Pac and his own wife thru her. And basically hiding his hands. Then Pac dies and the nikka dissin him and basically insinuating in the diss that he had somethin to do wit it. And spittin that shyt in LA of all places. I think its corny he didnt have that same energy while Pac was here. And its even cornier that people try to absolve Biggie of all wrongdoing and act like this nikka was innocent. None of them nikkas were.

 

[spliz]

You know why I lean towards believing him bro. He’s only spoke about all this maybe once or twice in the 20+ years this happened. And I know you know Henchmen is the type of nikka to do that shyt too. It’s not like Big’s camp could ever confirm this happened without implicating Henchmen & causing street level problems

I believe Gene Deal wouldve atleast exposed that shyt fam. I dont believe it happened honestly. And fam Tony Yayo smacked the fukk outta Henchman’s son. I dont think nikkas scared of dude like that no more. Him and Haitian Jack can keep going back n forth about who’s the bigger govt informant. Lol

 

[jackson35]

insont believe he had anything to do with the Quad studio, but his actions after were fukked up.

He refused to tell pac who was behind it even though he knew, he never went to see pac in prison, he went on radio and got the dogg pound video shoot shot up and after Pac died he came to California freestyling long kiss goodnight.

Big dug his own coffin just like Pac did.

Pac took Big under his wing and gave him game and took gun charges for him. Big owed him a higher level of loyalty. If the roles were reversed Pac would have rolled out for Big even if he cost him his life.

considering that every statement connecting big to the bullshyt is pure speculation

 

[tuckgod]

nikka that was afterwards fam. Pac had been tryna get the real scoop on what was going on for a minute prior to the Vibe interview and he had people telling him different things till he found out the real truth. Biggie damn near abandoned him, didnt visit or nothing when he was locked up. Then them nikkas was tryna make him look crazy in the media. Mix that with Who Shot Ya and this is why Pac had an issue wit Biggie. He also said he didnt want Biggie to snitch and tell him who did it if he was scared to but he did feel that Biggie knew what was gonna happen and should’ve gave him the scoop so he wouldnt have even went down there and end up in that situation. Pac has said all of this shyt out of his own mouth. People act like Pac didn’t directly try to come at Jimmy n them but he did and media outlets like Vibe switched the names around to protect him. Not only that but we still aint even heard the Angie interview that she holding hostage cause she said it would ruffle too many feathers. Which is why by the time Makaveli dropped he was saying names n all that. On the low Pac was reaching out to all kinda east coast heavyweights to back him up. Like Eric B for instance. Pac was def preparing himself for some shyt.

I was listening to Who Shot Ya? on mixtapes in '94 before Pac got shot at Quad.

That song was not about Tupac.

 

[hustlemania]

Both them nikkas had reasons to hate eachother but my issue wit Biggie is that he faked like he loved Pac even after his death. Meanwhile while Pac was here he was tryna recruit nikkas like Nas to help diss Pac on the low. Writing diss tracks for Lil Kim to diss Pac and his own wife thru her. And basically hiding his hands. Then Pac dies and the nikka dissin him and basically insinuating in the diss that he had somethin to do wit it. And spittin that shyt in LA of all places. I think its corny he didnt have that same energy while Pac was here. And its even cornier that people try to absolve Biggie of all wrongdoing and act like this nikka was innocent. None of them nikkas were.

in all honesty.. who cares how Big acted to Pac when he was here..? thats actually petty to even discuss.. he didnt owe that man the attention he so badly wanted.. oh well.. you think it wouldve had some crazy shift, and they'd both still be around..? i really dont even understand why that matters..

they didnt like each other.. thats the bottom line..

 

[010101]

dealing with emotional irrational nikkas you can get dragged into that vibe sometimes

pac is the driving force behind the drama

big got dragged into it but comparatively he kept clean

if he was as emotionally unhinged as pac it would've been even more heated

*

 

[DaveyDave]

insont believe he had anything to do with the Quad studio, but his actions after were fukked up.

He refused to tell pac who was behind it even though he knew, he never went to see pac in prison, he went on radio and got the dogg pound video shoot shot up and after Pac died he came to California freestyling long kiss goodnight.

Big dug his own coffin just like Pac did.

Pac took Big under his wing and gave him game and took gun charges for him. Big owed him a higher level of loyalty. If the roles were reversed Pac would have rolled out for Big even if he cost him his life.

How do you know Big has any info on the Quad robbery? Why should he see Pac in jail? He’s not his life long friend they knew each other for a few months? A couple of years maybe? What gun charges did Pac take for Big?

Biggie was stupid going to LA so soon after PACs death but nothing more than that IMO.

 

[hustlemania]

I was listening to Who Shot Ya? on mixtapes in '94 before Pac got shot at Quad.

That song was not about Tupac.

man.. nobodies got time for your facts..

 

[hustlemania]

How do you know Big has any info on the Quad robbery? Why should he see Pac in jail? He’s not his life long friend they knew each other for a few months? A couple of years maybe? What gun charges did Pac take for Big?

Biggie was stupid going to LA so soon after PACs death but nothing more than that IMO.

he just tried to sneak that gun charge in there like nobody would notice.