when nikkas gone stop acting like Biggie was innocent?

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@hustlemania you'd rather argue with a nikka that says Biggie stole Pac's albums then refute what I said :dead:
Those two arguments always shut down Biggie fans/stans.
I already pointed out why its beyond rational to even speak to someone who thinks like you.. youre delusional, even in the face of facts.. most of shyt you spew, are ridiculous logical fallacies..

not to mention.. look at your avy, and the quote under it.. :mjlol:

that in itself, should let anyone with common sense know you lack common sense when speaking about Pac..
 

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He didn’t put Big on. Mister Cee & Matty C from the Source put Big on. He linked with Pac & Pac definitely looked out for him but like him you’re blowing his getting put on way out of proportion. And if anyone’s being emotional about this it’s you bro because you keep regurgitating what Pac said as gospel instead of being logical about it.

Yeah i know about Mister Cee & all that mixtape stuff, but if you think Pac didnt help biggie out a hell of a lot then you arent thinking logically is what im saying? nah im not emotional just rather have a rational convo with you or whoever about the whole thing without people throwing out dumb shyt (as always) but on here you can never have rational convo its either you're a biggie fan or you;re a pac fan people think you can't like both theres no middle ground its either fukk 2pac or fukk biggie woo woo woo
 

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Breh, I'm gonna say this and I've said this a million times...rappers LITERALLY make songs about robbing and killing nikkas everyday, since forever. Why all of a sudden Biggie can't put out a song about shooting a nikka because Pac got shot? :what: Just cause uninformed idiots gonna try to tie it to Quad studios? Ya'll nikkas would claim Gimme The Loot or Warning was about Pac too, if those came out after the Quad incident. Reaching at it's finest.

Considering that Who Shot Ya was made well before Pac got shot this whole nonesense with that song shouldn't have been released is one of the dumbest things that Pac stans bring up whenever this debate is brought up. Making, and putting out, songs rapping about shooting and robbing nikkas is shyt most street rappers do.
Breh honestly, it's either I might be going crazy or yall nikkas are purposely being dense.
Are you seriously going to tell me the that Biggie/Puffy/Badboy or who ever wanted to push that song out wouldn't think that the nature of that song wouldn't be connected with Pac's shooting? Rappers release songs about killing, robbing, yes, but if "y" rapper were to release a song around "x" rapper being shot, especially since they were present or connected (not to the shooting but to the event) then that would be a suspect move to release the song, intentions plays a role. Breh I know you're not stupid so don't think stupid and use terrible arguments.
And those "uniformed idiots" (the media and fake rap fans I talked about) controlled the narrative around that story, did they not? That's my point.
Using a "bububub rappers talk about killing all the time" without any context or ties to events is a dumb argument breh, really dumb argument.
 

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A nikka get shot...or robbed...life goes on. That's not gonna stop any street rapper from putting out a song about shooting or robbing a nikka, don't matter if that rapper knew the dude that got shot or robbed. It is what it is. Hard pill to swallow for some of ya'll put ya'll need to snap back to reality.

When a nikka spend EXCESSIVE energy insinuating and outright stating he gonna kill you, your family and any associates...plus fukk your wife...most nikkas not gonna give a fukk about you even after you got clapped and sent back to the essence. I personally know that I would still talk shyt about a nikka after he died if that dude was doing what Pac was doing the year leading to his death. fukk it.
 
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Yeah i know about Mister Cee & all that mixtape stuff, but if you think Pac didnt help biggie out a hell of a lot then you arent thinking logically is what im saying? nah im not emotional just rather have a rational convo with you or whoever about the whole thing without people throwing out dumb shyt (as always) but on here you can never have rational convo its either you're a biggie fan or you;re a pac fan people think you can't like both theres no middle ground its either fukk 2pac or fukk biggie woo woo woo

So how did Pac put Big on then or help him a hell of a lot as you said? No sarcasm either I’m being serious
 

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Breh honestly, it's either I might be going crazy or yall nikkas are purposely being dense.
Are you seriously going to tell me the that Biggie/Puffy/Badboy or who ever wanted to push that song out wouldn't think that the nature of that song wouldn't be connected with Pac's shooting? Rappers release songs about killing, robbing, yes, but if "y" rapper were to release a song around "x" rapper being shot, especially since they were present or connected (not to the shooting but to the event) then that would be a suspect move to release the song, intentions plays a role. Breh I know you're not stupid so don't think stupid and use terrible arguments.
And those "uniformed idiots" (the media and fake rap fans I talked about) controlled the narrative around that story, did they not? That's my point.
Using a "bububub rappers talk about killing all the time" without any context or ties to events is a dumb argument breh, really dumb argument.


Read my above post. Who gives a fukk what stans are going to try to tie to what? Biggie was a street rapper that was getting PAID mostly FROM SONGS RAPPING ABOUT SHOOTING AND ROBBING nikkaS. Why the fukk would he stop putting out that type of music just because Pac got clapped? Especially since the SONG WAS MADE BEFORE THE QUAD INCIDENT.
 
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Bro, I'm a big Pac fan but these Pac stans on here are absolutely batshyt illogical.
i was watching something interesting online the other day.. and, it was speaking about how theres programs out there.. where they create ridiculous statements, headlines, etc just to draw more attention to certain topics..

allegedly.. :mjpls:
 

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Then why even name drop him 1 x on record if he’s to powerful in a street way ??.... you know where he’s at ... you got suge / Piru sets backing you track him down go handle it what else would need to be done ?? it’s clear it pac was just dragging this beef on as long as he could just for attention ...notice how 80% ov the industry if you u listen to them in interviews were getting sick and tired ov pacs beefing n knew he was just dragging it out ... I know 50 ain’t on henchmans level I already stated henchman won that war with g-unit plenty of times ... the only thing real in that beef was suge vs puffy due to that big Jake incident which turned into mob vs sscc later down the line
Breh how am I supposed to answer that? I don't care what the "industry" thinks about the beef, especially because that same industry you're talking about made money and pushed the beef heavy. Not really sure what you're arguing there.
But like I said, Henchmen was a goon with power, money, and respect. He was much more organised than Suge, to think Pac would go at someone who isn't at his level in such a short period of time is laughable and idiotic. And for argumentative purposes, lets say Pac did go at Henchmen first and not Biggie. If Henchmen got Pac killed or harmed you and other Pac critics would say; "Why would Pac attack Henchmen so soon? He just got out of jail, he should've laid low for a bit" Biggie and Tupac cant win in this situation.
 

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Read my above post. Who gives a fukk what stans are going to try to tie to what? Biggie was a street rapper that was getting PAID mostly FROM SONGS RAPPING ABOUT SHOOTING AND ROBBING nikkaS. Why the fukk would he stop putting out that type of music just because Pac got clapped? Especially since the SONG WAS MADE BEFORE THE QUAD INCIDENT.
Who gives a fukk? That whole situation is a big reason why both rappers are dead. Im sorry breh you're not making a good argument. "it's just a song", "rappers talk about killing and robbing, who cares" When Biggie was rapping Long Kiss on that radio show in LA were people saying the same thing?
 

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im an illogical Pac stan yet i've repeatedly stated Biggie's was not at fault for siding with Badboy/NYC and not Pac
im illogical for saying Who Shot Ya was written before Tupac got shot in 94
im illogical for saying someone who was tied to another person's shooting and released a song that could (and has) be perceived as a diss
@hustlemania @Billy Ocean
:mjlol:when facts go out the window and nikka start to become emotional. It's not my fault I bring facts unlike most Pac fans/stans
 

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A nikka get shot...or robbed...life goes on. That's not gonna stop any street rapper from putting out a song about shooting or robbing a nikka, don't matter if that rapper knew the dude that got shot or robbed. It is what it is. Hard pill to swallow for some of ya'll put ya'll need to snap back to reality.

When a nikka spend EXCESSIVE energy insinuating and outright stating he gonna get kill you, your family and any associates...plus fukk your wife...most nikkas not gonna give a fukk about you even after you got clapped and sent back to the essence. I personally know that I would still talk shyt about a nikka after he died if that dude was doing what Pac was doing the year leading to his death. fukk it.

Facts plus tax
 
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