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The OG State Property album with “Do You Want Me” came out in January 2002. Jay’s Blueprint 2 came out November 2002. Jay lifted Chris’ verse and flow in general from that song and used it for years :mjlol:

I'ma keep it G Real with you fam. I would sacrifice 5 Young Christophers for one Jay-Z :laugh:

I see what people mean but to say he made a whole career off of it like what he was doing was so unique is kinda crazy, it's why it all comes how much he was 'whispering' here and there. Aside from that one little quirk, his style is pretty normal rapping at that pace.
 

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State Prop was really the biggest casualty of the Roc split. They mastered their chemistry by the second album and everybody was individually getting nicer. They all got fukked over but Chris had the most potential by far. Jay stole his whole aura



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This sounds just like Jay anyone who thinks Jay didn’t take this flow is a complete idiot.
 

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You a real one to catch that breh. “American Dreaming” still gets burn from me but you can really hear Lu’s form in it

“Who in the f knows how to be successful
Need a personal Jesus, I’m in Depeche Mode”

That's straight Lupe, lol.

I remember Lupe saying back then that he was went Jay all the time in the studio and wanted him to executive produce his first album, and how they would talk music all day. Then AG dropped the next year, and you could hear mad Lupe cadence all over the album. Then on The Cool, there were tracks when Lupe was flowing like Jay, lol. MC's pull styles from each other all the time.
 

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young Chris ghost wrote the track party life on American gangsta

No evidence but his cadence is all over AG
Hmmm....okay. I can hear this. Hello Brooklyn comes to mind tho.
Young Chris couldn't even get in contact with Jay years before AG was even recorded. LOL!!

AG has a lot of Lupe cadences on it. He was around Jay a lot at the time and Jay had just executive produced Food and Liquor. So he was pulling a lot of inspiration from Lupe, back then.

Hmm.... interesting. I can also hear this. Falling comes to mind.
I'm trying to hear it

You have a Lupe example to compare this to?
When bra brought him up, the line that instantly jumped out to me is on "Party Life" when he said "Rap-pap-pap-id fire's an unnecessary evil" and the beat jumps or whatever. That sound like some Lupe ass shyt.
 

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Although it's facts how Jay stole his flow we gotta keep it real. Chris bit off him as well. His whole pausing, breath control and spacing sounds like how jay would do it. He even does the lil...I guess breath, or "uh hunh" shyt he be doin on songs as well...that whole..."Ad-lib package" or whatever
 
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State Prop was really the biggest casualty of the Roc split. They mastered their chemistry by the second album and everybody was individually getting nicer. They all got fukked over but Chris had the most potential by far. Jay stole his whole aura



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Jay been one of my favorite rappers for a long time but he was NOT rapping like this until the Young Gunz came around. This is an undeniable switch that happened in 2002 and it was a direct result of Young Chris
 
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