Where Are the Brothas? How the Continued Erasure of Black Men’s Voices on the Marriage Question Perp

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its one of the critiques black men have on the current institution of marriage. Black men see the state, black men have been in the marriages, black men have had the law sent after then by black women. You are saying white people possessed the black woman to make her treat black men how she does?

Once again, still doesn’t concern with my post. I am looking for more systemic issues of black misandry and the institutions that support black male exclusion and oppression. We are looking at the same coin, but I see this is apart of a broader issue impacting black folks, especially black men.
 

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Posting an article is not refuting my points, but whatever, let me cook.
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Black men drop Black women as soon as they reach a certain level of success, don’t they? While plenty of rap stars, athletes and musicians may choose to date or marry interracially when they achieve fame, the same is not true for the bulk of successful Black men. By analyzing census data, Toldson and Marks found that 83% of married Black men who earned at least $100,000 annually got hitched to Black women.

This is a false equivalency and not entirely related to my point. When black women choose to marry, they want to marry black. The selection of black men earning this much is significantly lower than those who don't. Morever, black men, regardless of income, PAWG more than black women wench. I've mentioned that in my post and it's confirmed in the study in this article.

The same is the case for educated Black men of all incomes. Eighty-five percent of Black male college graduates married Black women. Generally, 88% of married Black men (no matter their income or educational background) have Black wives. This means that interracial marriage should not alone be held responsible for the singleness of Black women.

Addressed this in my post. This coupling is second only to Hispanics, by percentage of couples overall.

Just because Black women are more likely to graduate from college than their male counterparts doesn’t mean that they out-earn Black men. Actually, Black men are more likely than Black women to bring home at least $75,000 annually. Also, double the number of Black men than women make at least $250,000 annually. Because of pervasive gender gaps in income, Black men remain the breadwinners in the Black community.


Addressed this too.

These numbers indicate that there are plenty of financially secure Black men for Black women. Of course, not every Black woman is looking for a breadwinner. Not every Black woman is even seeking marriage. Some Black women are happily single. Others are gay, lesbian, or bisexual and were unable to legally wed those they love until 2015 when the Supreme Court overturned the ban on gay marriage. For heterosexual Black women in search of marriage, however, the forecast is not nearly as gloomy as has been reported.


That's a dumb conclusion to reach. The black community itself is not financially secure; how can there be "plenty" of financially secure black men for black women? They also literally just confirmed my point about black men not needing to be a bread winner and being flexible in marriage. They also acknowledge that the shyt is bad out there but not that bad.



The Top 4 Myths About Black Marriage





my point still stands. if we want to be married, we need to be less rigid in our thinking about it. it's all well and good to be in common law relationships or not even get married at all. but when we talk about marriage and our role, as black men and women, it's imperative we be pragmatic; like our ancestors and grandparents.
 

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Get either an in demand degree, skill, or trade, stay in shape/dress right, and take care of your mental health.

Don't take no shyt off anybody and when you're ready ready build a dynasty, make sure your assets are protected, and get a woman who has something to lose to breed with.

That's all there is to it. Everything else is just babble:yeshrug:
 

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@CarmelBarbie already told you there's a lot of Black women who are team #GMS I'm starting to think this whole shyt is to sell Black women solutions.


There's continuing fallout from Mochafest 2019 in Jamaica. Basically when the country was locked down they allowed Mochafest basically a Black woman's freaknik to go on.
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Need you to elaborate more on this for me.
 
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Men (as a whole, regardless of race) are hesitant to get married because of the divorce, alimony, and child support laws that exist in the United States

Anyone who brushes over that fact is being 100% disingenuous
I'm scared to have kids because of this.

I've seen a lot of people just, in a terrible situation and misery, because once they have kids, it's basically a wrap.
 

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Need you to elaborate more on this for me.
Long story from the Jamaican standpoint they were being arrested for having little street parties yet Mochafest was allowed to happen.


Mochafest is basically a Female freaknik. I heard some shea hoin' channels say it's better than Hedoism because the dudes aren't older dudes.


They have them in Cancun too.
 

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Can you elaborate on this?


Laws favor the woman in all 3 cases

Child Support - Court automatically puts the woman as the more "suitable" parent
Alimony - Ancient law in general. Non-stop payments to a woman who you were married to, sometimes these payments can be for life
Divorce - Half of your money gone to her, doesn't even matter what income level you are on

Majority of divorces initiated by the woman. Culture now is planning a divorce even before the wedding instead of lasting long in married
 

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I'm scared to have kids because of this.

I've seen a lot of people just, in a terrible situation and misery, because once they have kids, it's basically a wrap.


Exactly. All it takes is one kid under this system and the government/scorned woman would try to take half of your wealth
Imagine all those years to build yourself up to the income level you are at, for it to be wiped away because you aren't with a woman anymore
 

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Laws favor the woman in all 3 cases

Child Support - Court automatically puts the woman as the more "suitable" parent
Alimony - Ancient law in general. Non-stop payments to a woman who you were married to, sometimes these payments can be for life
Divorce - Half of your money gone to her, doesn't even matter what income level you are on

Majority of divorces initiated by the woman. Culture now is planning a divorce even before the wedding instead of lasting long in married
You're forgetting that the husband usually is on the hook for the exwife's legal fees. Dudes are literally paying people to hose them in court.
 

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I did? I don’t remember saying that.
It was the thread where you were telling us about the guy you're currently dating. Iirc, he wants to marry, you dont. I meant to reach out privately to you and inquire further, actually, but real life is very busy rn.

But that also debunks the myth that Brehs lose more financially in a divorce—if a woman makes more than the man, doesn’t she have more to lose financially if the marriage ends? .
Interestingly, this happened to my brother. He made less but ended up losing more bc, though he had been the primary caregiver, as a man, he wasnt gon fight to take the child from her mother. So she, the primary breadwinner, ended up with custody and child support.

Report her. She doesn't have any business is black relationship discussions.
:usure: Neither do the pawgers and paagers, but they damn sure in here.
 

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Men (as a whole, regardless of race) are hesitant to get married because of the divorce, alimony, and child support laws that exist in the United States

Anyone who brushes over that fact is being 100% disingenuous

If that's the case then it only shows that average BM (I don't give a shxt about any other race like that) are starting to use talking points of BM in a higher tax bracket when they shouldn't.

Alimony is not something most BM statically will ever have to deal with because they don't make enough money or have enough assets...and sadly never will. If you want to avoid child support you're actually less likely to pay if you have your children with a wife than without one.

The top 5% of BM earners are married at a MUCH higher rate than the bottom 50% even though they are the ones that have something to lose. They don't seem to have a problem with marriage or getting married.

The reality is this: If you dont want to be married because you're afraid of losing assets that's fine. But if you're afraid of losing money then you probably should stay away from most forms of investment as well.

Most men using the "she's going to take my money" excuse usually don't have real money to take in the first place.

It's a cop out.
 
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If that's the case then it only shows that average BM (I don't give a shxt about any other race like that) are starting to use talking points of BM in a higher tax bracket when they shouldn't.

Alimony is not something most BM statically will ever have to deal with because they don't make enough money or have enough assets...and sadly never will. If you want to avoid child support you're actually less likely to pay if you have your children with a wife than without one.

The top 5% of BM earners are married at a MUCH higher rate than the bottom 50% even though they are the ones that have something to lose. They don't seem to have a problem with marriage or getting married

The reality is this: If you dont want to be married because you're afraid of losing assets that's fine. But if you're a afraid of losing money then you probably should stay away from most forms of investment as well.

Most men using the "she's going to take my money" excuse usually don't have real money to take in the first place.

It's a cop out.
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Black men don’t want to get married???

36% of black men are married, compared to 25% of black women and there’s twice as many black women..

so this notion of black men don’t want to get married is bullshyt

these women are not getting chosen because they bring nothing to the table… this shyt about u having a car, a place to sleep, and a career just means your a adult….. never once u hear many of these women say I’m submissive, cooperative and willing to follow my man…

its all about them and what they want

so I don’t care how many times articles like this is posted, it won’t change the fact many of these sisters are not willing to change
 
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