Where does God telling Abraham to kill his son rank as most fukked up things in the Bible

[MMS]

This makes the sense of it all. Thanks for the new look at things.

the serpent is subtle

consider the words im typing

there is my perception of what im implying, and there is your perception of what im implying

deeply consider this before considering gnosticism as valid

the curse of increasing the labors of eve didnt necessarily happen overnight (consider what meat consumption has done to man kind by ethnicity)

"cursed is the ground for your sake you will eat your bread and toil the earth"

is also not necessarily something that happened all at once...even Adam and Eve being driven from the garden is not necessarily all at once.

Satanism entered creation with deceit....please consider all you who think the serpent is a hero when you consider a world without deceit vs a world with deceit it should be obvious what the fall is...and is continuing to this day

the serpent exists in page 2 of Genesis.

 

[The Realist Perspective]

the serpent is subtle

consider the words im typing

there is my perception of what im implying, and there is your perception of what im implying

deeply consider this before considering gnosticism as valid

the curse of increasing the labors of eve didnt necessarily happen overnight (consider what meat consumption has done to man kind by ethnicity)

"cursed is the ground for your sake you will eat your bread and toil the earth"

is also not necessarily something that happened all at once...even Adam and Eve being driven from the garden is not necessarily all at once.

Satanism entered creation with deceit....please consider all you who think the serpent is a hero when you consider a world without deceit vs a world with deceit it should be obvious what the fall is...and is continuing to this day

the serpent exists in page 2 of Genesis.

It just does not make logical sense why an all knowing, flawless being would create something that would not go as he had planned. It's contradictory to the very definition of being all knowing and perfect. Omnibenevolence is not possible based on the history that we know being BOTH perfect and all knowing.

 

[Dave24]

the serpent is subtle

consider the words im typing

there is my perception of what im implying, and there is your perception of what im implying

deeply consider this before considering gnosticism as valid

the curse of increasing the labors of eve didnt necessarily happen overnight (consider what meat consumption has done to man kind by ethnicity)

"cursed is the ground for your sake you will eat your bread and toil the earth"

is also not necessarily something that happened all at once...even Adam and Eve being driven from the garden is not necessarily all at once.

Satanism entered creation with deceit....please consider all you who think the serpent is a hero when you consider a world without deceit vs a world with deceit it should be obvious what the fall is...and is continuing to this day

the serpent exists in page 2 of Genesis.

What is the most accurate Christian denomination in your opinion? Catholicism, Baptism, Methodist, Episcopalian, etc, etc. Which is the correct one?

 

[Let A Fro Be A Fro]

Lot of y’all are lost..... placing the love for God should come before anyone or anything else.... it’s the only way to truly love our children and families.... Abraham was tough enough to endure the lesson for the example to be made...... lot of y’all weak minded and wouldn’t understand ..... but whatever, get the picture

You believe that the only way to truly love our families is to love someone else who we've never seen or heard even MORE than our families



Oh yeah, WE'RE the confused ones.

 

[Deep_Black_Conscious]

You believe that the only way to truly love our families is to love someone else who we've never seen or heard even MORE than our families



Oh yeah, WE'RE the confused ones.

Cult like shyt people don't even realize how crazy they sound
Most people are products of Sunday school and not having a choice as a young impressionable mind

 

[Dave24]

Gnosticism is about revealing why the world is the way it is
Look up the Demiurge
There is no rhyme or reason for anything that happens except to maximize suffering
Make smart choices, set goals, and pay attention to your intuition
Sometimes you also need luck, because a lot of people don't realize a lot of our lives are out of our control

@Deep_Black_Conscious thanks breh!

In terms of Gnosticism what are there thoughts on wealth and being successful? Also there thoughts on sex? Is it ok to sleep with a lot of women or do they think being married/being monogamous is the way to go?

 

[MMS]

It just does not make logical sense why an all knowing, flawless being would create something that would not go as he had planned. It's contradictory to the very definition of being all knowing and perfect. Omnibenevolence is not possible based on the history that we know being BOTH perfect and all knowing.

To see the world is imperfect is a choice consider the curse

consider the nature of the deceiving spirit. It leads to covetousness, gluttony, pride and evils etc...

the garden was destroyed by Adam and Eve by disobedience

Gods creation fixes itself and the rules were established simply. You might say why couldnt god give me exactly what I want...well why cant you speak your preferred world into existence then? perhaps the lesson is the curse on the serpent (tongue)

"cursed are you above all cattle , and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life"

mans words lead to naught, every addition to the word of god thereafter is just a constant reminder of this.

remember our lives are numbered (120 years max) we simply do not see the world from an eternal perspective as God does...despite what we imagine. Our best bet is Genesis 1

 

[MMS]

What is the most accurate Christian denomination in your opinion? Catholicism, Baptism, Methodist, Episcopalian, etc, etc. Which is the correct one?

Orthodoxy - Ethiopian, Eastern, Coptic

imo you need to live in the word and meditate on the stories and narratives to backtrack from your modern thought process through time and space to the very beginning to understand the fall of man from complete fellowship with God in the garden.

folks who stop at "Jesus died for my sins" simply do not consider it all. Nor are they trying to. Its a slap in the face really

 

[EndDomination]

Elisha has a bear maul 30 kids to death for making fun of him for being bald.

It doesn't make the top three because Abraham doesn't actually kill Isaac.

 

[The Realist Perspective]

To see the world is imperfect is a choice consider the curse

consider the nature of the deceiving spirit. It leads to covetousness, gluttony, pride and evils etc...

the garden was destroyed by Adam and Eve by disobedience

Gods creation fixes itself and the rules were established simply. You might say why couldnt god give me exactly what I want...well why cant you speak your preferred world into existence then? perhaps the lesson is the curse on the serpent (tongue)

"cursed are you above all cattle , and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life"

mans words lead to naught, every addition to the word of god thereafter is just a constant reminder of this.

remember our lives are numbered (120 years max) we simply do not see the world from an eternal perspective as God does...despite what we imagine. Our best bet is Genesis 1

It is not a choice of viewing the world as imperfect, it was claimed by God himself when he expressed regret of his creation. Genesis 6:6

Wait but that even further begs the following questions, how do you regret something that you knew with 100 percent certainty that it was going to occur? How can you regret anything if you know each outcome of your choice?

Regret is such a mortal, finite, flawed human emotion. I remember reading that verse and it just did not sit well with me at all, for good reason.

"consider the nature of the deceiving spirit. It leads to covetousness, gluttony, pride and evils etc...

the garden was destroyed by Adam and Eve by disobedience"

We can speak of the cause of the effects but what is the root cause of all? There can be arguably two scenarios. 1 - God specifically created and "programmed" everything the way it turned out. Satan rebelling. Adam and Eve rebelling. He created ALL of that to act out specifically in this way. 2 - God had zero idea that his creation would turn out the way that it did.

Scenario 1 - god cannot be omnibenevolent. Scenario 2 - god cannot be omniscient.

**remember our lives are numbered (120 years max) - Jeanne Calment - Wikipedia - What does this ultimately mean?

 

[Leasy]

1. Job getting everything taken from him as a result of a bet between god and the devil
2. Onan being forced to fukk and impregnate his dead brother’s wife because of jewish tradition. Onan nutted on the ground instead, so god killed him.
3. The Ark of the Covenant was being carried by donkeys and one of the donkeys stumbled, so to prevent the Ark from falling on the ground, a servant held it up. god kills the servant for touching the Ark
4. Jacob wrestled with god and gave god the beats. god gets and touches jacobs hip causing him to limp for the remainder of his life.
5. Abraham is asked by god to kill his only son to see if he loves his son more than god

bonus: god sends female bears to maul some kids who hurt a prophet’s feelings for having a receding hairline

bonus II: god kills pharaoh’s firstborn because he made pharaoh say “no” when Moses asked about releasing the Israelites from bondage

these are top of my head but the old testament is filled with fukkery

I can see why those scribes from Africa and Middle East was like fukk outta here Constantine with this bullshyt during Nicea 325 AD

 

[MMS]

It is not a choice of viewing the world as imperfect, it was claimed by God himself when he expressed regret of his creation. Genesis 6:6

Wait but that even further begs the following questions, how do you regret something that you knew with 100 percent certainty that it was going to occur? How can you regret anything if you know each outcome of your choice?

Regret is such a mortal, finite, flawed human emotion. I remember reading that verse and it just did not sit well with me at all, for good reason.

"consider the nature of the deceiving spirit. It leads to covetousness, gluttony, pride and evils etc...

the garden was destroyed by Adam and Eve by disobedience"

We can speak of the cause of the effects but what is the root cause of all? There can be arguably two scenarios. 1 - God specifically created and "programmed" everything the way it turned out. Satan rebelling. Adam and Eve rebelling. He created ALL of that to act out specifically in this way. 2 - God had zero idea that his creation would turn out the way that it did.

Scenario 1 - god cannot be omnibenevolent. Scenario 2 - god cannot be omniscient.

**remember our lives are numbered (120 years max) - Jeanne Calment - Wikipedia - What does this ultimately mean?

Whom is Satan? Satan simply means The Adversary. Which is the ego/self. Lets just get that out of the way first...with that in mind Adam and Eve developing ego is the fruit of the knowledge.

consider writing

without it, how would you communicate? If you had no language...what can be defined?

Sound is a wave, and the words spoken of creation can thusly be considered as waves..... The entire universe is comprised of light...which behaves as a wave.. now consider our entire existence is inside a few spoken words when you think and call on something to think of, whom do you think answers? Is your flesh conscious...or are you conscious of your flesh?

When God says "I will shake not only the earth but also the heavens" its literal

you say that god expressed regret for his creation...if it was designed without sin...imagine what sin could have done to it? Consider then when Noah left the "Ark" that God let him know that for all bloodshed...blood will be demanded...by man and beast.

remember this isnt just man...but beast as well. Whatever was happening before the flood is on another level of bad that we probably dont want to consider.

where do sharp teeth come from?

 

[The Realist Perspective]

Whom is Satan? Satan simply means The Adversary. Which is the ego/self. Lets just get that out of the way first...with that in mind Adam and Eve developing ego is the fruit of the knowledge.

consider writing

without it, how would you communicate? If you had no language...what can be defined?

Sound is a wave, and the words spoken of creation can thusly be considered as waves..... The entire universe is comprised of light...which behaves as a wave.. now consider our entire existence is inside a few spoken words when you think and call on something to think of, whom do you think answers? Is your flesh conscious...or are you conscious of your flesh?

When God says "I will shake not only the earth but also the heavens" its literal

you say that god expressed regret for his creation...if it was designed without sin...imagine what sin could have done to it? Consider then when Noah left the "Ark" that God let him know that for all bloodshed...blood will be demanded...by man and beast.

remember this isnt just man...but beast as well. Whatever was happening before the flood is on another level of bad that we probably dont want to consider.

where do sharp teeth come from?

 

[MMS]

im deadass

Genesis 1:29-30

29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

conveniently beasts end up eating meat with no explanation how do you go from man and beast being vegan to not being so unless the the "fruit" was actually flesh.

Then you have Cain and Abel story which "appears" as a "sacrifice" when it can be read another way:

Genesis 4:1-5

4 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.

2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the Lord.

4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering:

5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.

this can be perceived as over the course of a mans life...he offers the first of his flock and the fat thereof.....children and the work of his herd

vs the toils of the ground...works of his own

even as we speak...cain is plotting death on his brother who attracts herds

 

[Saint1]

And Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the LORD; and the LORD slew him. And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife... And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground... And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also. Genesis 38:7-10


7 But Er, Judah’s firstborn, was wicked in the Lord’s sight;so the Lord put him to death.

8 Then Judah said to Onan, “Sleep with your brother’s wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to raise up offspring for your brother.” 9 But Onan knew that the child would not be his; so whenever he slept with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother. 10 What he did was wicked in the Lord’s sight; so the Lord put him to death also.



God kills Er for being wicked, and then kills Er's brother, Onan, for ejaculating outside the vagina of his dead brother's wife.

God is #nopullout gang