Where does God telling Abraham to kill his son rank as most fukked up things in the Bible

[Lurk_skward]

Bible is mythological.

 

[TEH]

Didn’t cacs use the Bible to justify slavery

What does that mean


You can use anything to justify anything with a little creativity

 

[semicko82]

What does that mean


You can use anything to justify anything with a little creativity

Damn look at that you just proved my point

 

[JoelB]

the lack of commentary about the sons of Japheth is telling

Noah cursed Canaan indeed (the progenitors of Rome)...not saying I agree with the Nation of Islam but where there is smoke there is fire

Gates of Alexander - Wikipedia



Ramesses II - Wikipedia

West Asiatic prisoners of Ramses II at Abu Simbel

Battle of Kadesh - Wikipedia

Ive always found it intriguing that the state of Judah was in league with Egypt by archaelogic record but is not mentioned in detail in the Neviim and Ketuvim

Them images . I got a screenshot of one showing the slaves with fringes and garment of blue at the border..gotta go through my notes.

but what you mean by the state of Judah not mentioned?

 

[JoelB]

also @MMS

this is a nice read as well

 

[MMS]

Them images . I got a screenshot of one showing the slaves with fringes and garment of blue at the border..gotta go through my notes.

but what you mean by the state of Judah not mentioned?

Judah by archaelogic record was like a buffer kingdom between Egypt and the kingdoms in Canaan

there are many evidences of this as well as in the Sinai peninsula. There is debate on whether "David" was a person or was his name a title...in hebrew is Dwd which transliterated to Egyptian is Twt
King David | Bible Origins in Egypt

Thutmose I - Wikipedia

his name means Born of Wisdom (Thoth/Djehuti)

the greekification of Egypt makes their deities seem like discreet beings rather than divine concepts.

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

The created are always subject to the creator. Your hubris is your true weakness and will be your down fall if you give in to it.

No hubris about it. Just pointing out the implications of that world view. We're both saying the same thing, really. I'm just the one pointing out it's a bad thing.

If you cool with it then

 

[MMS]

More genesis wisdom to understand the difference in understanding pre-exodus

Genesis 9:1-6

1And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.

2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.

3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.

4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.

5 And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.

6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.

in other words, if you eat of flesh...creation will in turn eat of your flesh. Should you slay man, so shall you be slain by a man...depending on how you view this it can be discerned as within this life or your next

What man does unto creation ultimately gets done back onto him. The law in essence protects us from doing things that we would not want done back to us.

 

[NAUGHTY]

The Book of Job 1:6-22


consider this story as a means of explaining "why" the events happened. Consider this also as allegories...



consider this story as a means of explaining "what" happened

following this his own friends from the neighboring areas came to learn what had happened to Job....and they corrected him while he was cursing his own birth due to his misfortune

remember he is an upright man that is blameless...the story is explaining that all things that happen simply happen and to curse God or worse claim he is Satan (the deceiving spirit) when your fortunes change is a false understanding of God.

Job then precedes to converse with them at length with HIS own wisdom about God much to his friends dismay...this line says it all

Job 32:1



Job 38:1-4



depending on how you read this...Job at this point has died (spiritually) and is now with God whom begins to truly walk him through the events he has experienced but from HIS perspective rather than Jobs (who dwells on the ways of Men).

Job 42:5-12



there is a marked difference of walking with God as your father and your friend and simply ritualizing a relationship with God as a means for success

Job is complicated because of idea of Satan destroying what Job had....but the truth is nothing that a man has makes him as a man...not his family or his land or his business but God alone.

What happened to him was going to happen but how he reacted to it and how God rebuked him of his false wisdom is the emphasis of the story

Job is one of the best books of the Bible tbh of understanding the difference between Fearing God and having a personal relationship with him.

This post puts a lot into perspective for me. Rep

 

[MMS]

If anyone is interested in reading more on what I believe the link between Egyptian theology and Biblical theology I would start here

ANCIENT EGYPT : The Memphis Theology of the Shabaka Stone

There were multiple schools of thought but those of Ptah (Ta-tenen; transliterated as The Great One of the Risen Land) were especially concerned with the spoken and written word. Ive yet to see anything that is as consistent with biblical philosophy yet from Egypt

furthermore, if Moses was indeed part of the royal family of Egypt prior to the exodus his title may have been High Priest of Ptah (at the time one of the highest viziers in the egyptian court).

 

[cobra]

I touched on that god sacrificing his son shyt in another thread:

the punishment isn't spending 3 days dead but facing God's wrath against sin

Lets look at Jesus' last words on the cross

‘I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise’” - Luke 23:42-43 (Jesus said this to a thief who was also crucified beside him)

"My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?" Matthew 27:46

This means that He wasn't afraid of spending 3 days in some netherworld region (He knew He was going to paradise that same day).
However, he was afraid of being bearing humanity's sin and bearing God's anger against sin.

 

[invalid]

Noah cursed Canaan indeed (the progenitors of Rome)

I would've thought Japheth was the progenitors of Rome.

 

[Turk]

The Biblical God was responsible for move evil than Satan in the Bible

An all knowing God needs to test people for what fukking reason?

 

[MMS]

I would've thought Japheth was the progenitors of Rome.

Phoenicia - Wikipedia

Phoenicia (Canaan) were the first seafaring empire. They helped establish the kingdoms in the Levant, Carthage, Troy, and several towns in Lower Egypt (Avaris, Sais etc). It is my opinion that these are the historic Hyksos
Hyksos - Wikipedia

Aamu - Wikipedia

These peoples are not to be confused with those who originally settled Anatolia, Greece, Italy, Thrace, and Scythia (Japheth)

They influenced everyone in the Mediterranean and are the original worshippers of "the sea" (Poseidon)

many of the evil ways of Canaan and their religious practices began with them. Note their pantheon

Baalshamin - Wikipedia

Aglibol, Baalshamin (center), and Malakbel

 

[Drip Bayless]

What about when God told Saul to spin Amalek and lay down everything moving

Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.