Where does God telling Abraham to kill his son rank as most fukked up things in the Bible

[bigdaddy88]

Well, if read that same story from the book of jubilees u see a diffeeent pov.

A principality( fallen angel) came to God and wanted to test abraham' faith even further by telling him to do so.it was never the intend for abraham to kill isaac. I think its jubilies 17 or 18.

God does NOT do human sacrifice.

When it comes to the isralites killing the people of cannan that was because the cannanites were living in the land that was set apart for the descendants of shem. This is also found in the book of jubiliees.

Canaan was warned not to live there by his father ham but he would not listen

This is why YEARS later israel kicked them out, they did not belong there.

Soo many books have been removed from the old testament, that take away the whole picture of the old and new testament

 

[bigdaddy88]

slightly below God flooding the Earth and killing everyone except one tiny family[/QUOT

Ya'll dont read the book u hear stories and that is it

He killed the whole planet because folks were having hybrids and having sex with fallen angels and mix breeding animals. Kinda like what scientist are doing today mix breeading animals and mixing human dna witth animals and stuff

People became genetically corrupted, this is where modern science is going with dna splicing and mixing

The uneasy truth about human-animal hybrids

 

[MMS]

me too breh, you're going to put Job through all that just to prove to SATAN that Job is loyal???

I thought God was all knowing and all powerful so why put one of your most faithful servants through all that, just tell the devil to kick rocks and keep it moving???


sidenote I see that you're a Coli supporter, how do you become a supporter on here breh ?

The Book of Job 1:6-22

6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.

7 And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

8 And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?

9 Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?

10 Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.

11 But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.

12 And the Lord said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the Lord.

consider this story as a means of explaining "why" the events happened. Consider this also as allegories...

13 And there was a day when his sons and his daughters were eating and drinking wine in their eldest brother's house:

14 And there came a messenger unto Job, and said, The oxen were plowing, and the asses feeding beside them:

15 And the Sabeans fell upon them, and took them away; yea, they have slain the servants with the edge of the sword; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee.

16 While he was yet speaking, there came also another, and said, The fire of God is fallen from heaven, and hath burned up the sheep, and the servants, and consumed them; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee.

17 While he was yet speaking, there came also another, and said, The Chaldeans made out three bands, and fell upon the camels, and have carried them away, yea, and slain the servants with the edge of the sword; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee.

18 While he was yet speaking, there came also another, and said, Thy sons and thy daughters were eating and drinking wine in their eldest brother's house:

19 And, behold, there came a great wind from the wilderness, and smote the four corners of the house, and it fell upon the young men, and they are dead; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee.

20 Then Job arose, and rent his mantle, and shaved his head, and fell down upon the ground, and worshipped,

21 And said, Naked came I out of my mother's womb, and naked shall I return thither: the Lord gave, and the Lord hath taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord.

22 In all this Job sinned not, nor charged God foolishly.

consider this story as a means of explaining "what" happened

following this his own friends from the neighboring areas came to learn what had happened to Job....and they corrected him while he was cursing his own birth due to his misfortune

remember he is an upright man that is blameless...the story is explaining that all things that happen simply happen and to curse God or worse claim he is Satan (the deceiving spirit) when your fortunes change is a false understanding of God.

Job then precedes to converse with them at length with HIS own wisdom about God much to his friends dismay...this line says it all

Job 32:1

32 So these three men ceased to answer Job, because he was righteous in his own eyes.

Job 38:1-4

1 Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,

2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?

3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.

4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

depending on how you read this...Job at this point has died (spiritually) and is now with God whom begins to truly walk him through the events he has experienced but from HIS perspective rather than Jobs (who dwells on the ways of Men).

Job 42:5-12

5 I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee.

6 Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.

7 And it was so, that after the Lord had spoken these words unto Job, the Lord said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath.

8 Therefore take unto you now seven bullocks and seven rams, and go to my servant Job, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and my servant Job shall pray for you: for him will I accept: lest I deal with you after your folly, in that ye have not spoken of me the thing which is right, like my servant Job.

9 So Eliphaz the Temanite and Bildad the Shuhite and Zophar the Naamathite went, and did according as the Lord commanded them: the Lord also accepted Job.

10 And the Lord turned the captivity of Job, when he prayed for his friends: also the Lord gave Job twice as much as he had before.

11 Then came there unto him all his brethren, and all his sisters, and all they that had been of his acquaintance before, and did eat bread with him in his house: and they bemoaned him, and comforted him over all the evil that the Lord had brought upon him: every man also gave him a piece of money, and every one an earring of gold.

12 So the Lord blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning: for he had fourteen thousand sheep, and six thousand camels, and a thousand yoke of oxen, and a thousand she asses.

there is a marked difference of walking with God as your father and your friend and simply ritualizing a relationship with God as a means for success

Job is complicated because of idea of Satan destroying what Job had....but the truth is nothing that a man has makes him as a man...not his family or his land or his business but God alone.

What happened to him was going to happen but how he reacted to it and how God rebuked him of his false wisdom is the emphasis of the story

Job is one of the best books of the Bible tbh of understanding the difference between Fearing God and having a personal relationship with him.

 

[TEH]

“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all of fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully."

Sounds like someone who didn’t actually read the Bible because that’s not true if you read it and see the full context of it.

 

[MMS]

Sounds like someone who didn’t actually read the Bible because that’s not true if you read it and see the full context of it.

its near impossible for someone in 2021 to imagine being under the foot of kings, lords and mother nature in antiquity

the way they explained the world and what they perceived is markedly different. Kings back then believed they were God (or their bloodline)

prophets having wars with eachother scribing curses to one up other kingdoms etc. The "Gods of shem and ham etc" Its a literal spiritual war taking place

 

[I AM WE ARE]

- that’s not The Ultimate Sin
- there isn’t a Hell

#readthewholethingyourself

I was being sarcastic bruh
Church people always say suicide is ultimate sin because you can't ask forgiveness and's you go to hell

 

[TEH]

its near impossible for someone in 2021 to imagine being under the foot of kings, lords and mother nature in antiquity

the way they explained the world and what they perceived is markedly different. Kings back then believed they were God (or their bloodline)

prophets having wars with eachother scribing curses to one up other kingdoms etc. The "Gods of shem and ham etc" Its a literal spiritual war taking place

That’s not in the Bible. Sheeeeeit
how hard is it for you all to read it before you talk about it?

 

[The Radiant One]

Genesis 1:31



everything beyond this point is where things start gettin hairy god didnt supply adam with a bible, bricks, language etc

Genesis 1:29



consider that God had made everything perfect on page one and you'll understand that every ideal that follows is not truly of god but of men

thus the necessity of Jesus to correct mankind and save him from himself

but it was going to put the tree of knowledge of good and evil witch must’ve been good. Because using your owns the scripture you said everything was good.

That would also include the serpent. Unless God messed up

 

[MMS]

but it was going to put the tree of knowledge of good and evil witch must’ve been good. Because using your owns the scripture you said everything was good.

That would also include the serpent. Unless God messed up

Genesis 2 is a different page than Genesis 1

Genesis 1:26-27

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

and yet on Genesis 2:6-8

6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

8 And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.

the events of Genesis 1 include all of reality...Genesis 2 on the other hand explains only the creation of Man and then his wife

its often considered to be one in the same but you must go back to Genesis 2:4 to understand that they arent describing the same thing necessarily....

Genesis 2:4

4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,

consider the word generations in light of the meticulous recording of generations of the line of david/seth etc

there is more going on here than meets the eye IMO

@Koichos what do you think

 

[JoelB]

Sounds like someone who didn’t actually read the Bible because that’s not true if you read it and see the full context of it.

nikkas don't read the bible, they listen to cacs like Dawkins, Hitchens, Sam Harris and repeat their soundbytes

 

[Robbie3000]

Sounds like someone who didn’t actually read the Bible because that’s not true if you read it and see the full context of it.

I'm quoting Dawkins. But I have also read the book and that is a perfect description of Yahweh.

 

[TEH]

I'm quoting Dawkins. But I have also read the book and that is a perfect description of Yahweh.

Actually no it’s not. It says nothing about context.

 

[Robbie3000]

Actually no it’s not. It says nothing about context.

What’s the context for permanently giving Isaac and Abraham PTSD so his faith and be tested?

What’s the context for killing innocent kids and animals in Egypt?

Context foe sensing two bears to mail 42 kids for making fun of a bald man?

Context for drowning every living thing including children, infants and animals and destroying plants and other wildlife? (This is Emperor and Darth Vader) levels of evil here.

Yahweh is a much more evil character than Satan.

 

[TEH]

What’s the context for permanently giving Isaac and Abraham PTSD so his faith and be tested?

What’s the context for killing innocent kids and animals in Egypt?

Context foe sensing two bears to mail 42 kids for making fun of a bald man?

Context for drowning every living thing including children, infants and animals and destroying plants and other wildlife? (This is Emperor and Darth Vader) levels of evil here.

Yahweh is a much more evil character than Satan.

Have fun with these white boy talking points.

I guess next you’ll try to convince me how good metal music is and about the joys of surfing.

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

Have fun with these white boy talking points.

I guess next you’ll try to convince me how good metal music is and about the joys of surfing.

Falling back on race bait?
What's wrong with metal and surfing? Black people aren't allowed to take part in those things?