Where is Carmelo Anthony on your top 10

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when Melo leaves this sinking ship, plays with one fukkin guy worth a damn for the first time in his career, he's going to become one of the most loved players in the game. People are going to drop the whole "he needs to play second fiddle" after half a season and start talking about him as one of the best in the league again. pretty predictable
 

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when Melo leaves this sinking ship, plays with one fukkin guy worth a damn for the first time in his career, he's going to become one of the most loved players in the game. People are going to drop the whole "he needs to play second fiddle" after half a season and start talking about him as one of the best in the league again. pretty predictable

So AI, Chancey, Andre Miller, Amare (pre-injury) weren't worth a damn? :wtf: Didn't he hop on this "sinking ship" and toss some life preservers overboard in the process? The pleas that get copped for Melo never cease to amaze me. No other player would get a pass for shyt being THIS bad. Even the Kobe bridage started to turn on him last season. After what I have read recently about Melo, Shaq, AI I might have to reevaluate my "Most Vigilant and in out of touch with reality Stanbase" Rankings. :ehh:
 

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Al, Chauncey, Andre Miller and Amare (who was never "pre" injury, dude is one giant injury) aren't worth a damn, yes.

Amare is the only guy there who has ever in his peak been a guy you'd want as your second option, and Iverson was basically dwindling by the time he got to Melo.
 

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Al, Chauncey, Andre Miller and Amare (who was never "pre" injury, dude is one giant injury) aren't worth a damn, yes.

Amare is the only guy there who has ever in his peak been a guy you'd want as your second option, and Iverson was basically dwindling by the time he got to Melo.

:comeon:

Outscoring Melo is dwindling?:dead: Amare looked pretty healthy before Carmelo arrived, healthy enough to make Melo wanna go to NY in the first place.

So basically there is no limit to the lengths nikkas will go to to :cape: for Melo? :wow:
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
He needs a very specific team built around him, like dude would be great on the Bulls or Pacers, where they have defenders to hide him and he'd be able to fire off shots with excellent offensive rebounders to recover misses.

But, his game much like Iverson's isn't built for sharing with another star, dude is a throwback iso-ball player.
 

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He needs a very specific team built around him, like dude would be great on the Bulls or Pacers, where they have defenders to hide him and he'd be able to fire off shots with excellent offensive rebounders to recover misses.

But, his game much like Iverson's isn't built for sharing with another star, dude is a throwback iso-ball player.

Spurs would be an under the radar option....
 

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He needs a very specific team built around him, like dude would be great on the Bulls or Pacers, where they have defenders to hide him and he'd be able to fire off shots with excellent offensive rebounders to recover misses.

But, his game much like Iverson's isn't built for sharing with another star, dude is a throwback iso-ball player.

It's funny how people gloss over this piece. nikkas go on about him not having help and totally ignore what he's done or rather hasn't done when he has had help. Ability is one thing. Being able to fit that ability in with other talented pieces and have the team flourish is a whole different level. Kobe is tagged as a selfish player and frankly he's earned it but he's demonstrated the ability to make his game mesh with other stars.

Melo needs a team like the 2011 Mavs. A team full of vets that can take care of the leadership piece and don't really need him to set a tone and a pg that can tend to everybody else and all he has to do is just focus on getting his points and grabbing some boards.
 

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Problem is- making sure Melo gets his points generally isnt a concern for good coaches. The game dictates who scores.
 
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You disqualify yourself from top 10 consideration when your team has a comparable/worse record than the Pistons, Kobe-less Lakers, Boston, DENVER, Orlando, Atlanta, Charlotte, Utah etc. AND you are big part of the reason they are in that position.
That has absolutely NOTHING to do with whether or not he's a top 10 player. Off-court shyt is just that, it holds no weight in his ability as a player.

How much better off is Brooklyn from a talent/injury/coaching perspective?
What are you insinuating here?

I would have to really sit and think about an actual list because it's about more than numbers. Ability and production wise he's probably on it..
That's really all that matters, all this other shyt your talking is nonsense.

However, when you get to talking about elite players (which a top 10 list is synoymous with) you have to look at their overall impact on the game and their team. Clearly Melo is not has impactful as his numbers would suggest.
I ask you again, name me 10 players in the league that would have this team fighting well above where they're currently at now?
 
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That has absolutely NOTHING to do with whether or not he's a top 10 player. Off-court shyt is just that, it holds no weight in his ability as a player.


What are you insinuating here?


That's really all that matters, all this other shyt your talking is nonsense.


I ask you again, name me 10 players in the league that would have this team fighting well above where they're currently at now?

You can't say "Bu...bu...but his team is so bad" when he chose the team AND played a part in them being this bad. You can't just overlook it because it's inconvenient.

I am plainly stating that teams that have comparable or less talent and don't have a "top 10 player" are doing as well or better.

If that was all that really mattered then the Knicks wouldn't be as bad as they are.

If we are talking about any other players being there, the amount of money they make and how they got there would have to be taken into account as well.
 
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