Who created God?

[xCivicx]

You don’t seem to understand that local forces can overcome gravity. Gravity isn’t some all-encompassing insurmountable force... Hell, using your same logic my 20# dumbbell that I have on the floor should just tear through my bedroom floor because the dumbbell is more dense than the carpet and wood supporting it.
In your physics classes did you not take a simple statics lesson?

Your dumbell is not more dense than the house foundation supporting you and your carpet/wood floor

That's not a good example

Gravity supposedly IS an all-encompassing all-pervasive force

But it is also factually a contradictory concept

It's also a completely illogical concept. Isaac Newton himself said so, and I can prove that again in here if I have to

Also I don't think I understand what you mean by the bold

 

[Tom Foolery]

God is the first creator of life. So whatever triggers life is God.

So God was created by God.

 

[Mr Hate Coffee]

I’ve always thought that humans will never have enough information to understand what life truly is. One of the more fascinating things to me is our understanding of time. Time is obviously about perspective. Even on earth, one hour of pain moves different from one hour of pleasure. And when looking at the universe, light that has been long dead is now reaching us. We’re literally looking at the past (with a combination of our present). shyt is spooky

ngl this had me like

 

[levitate]

Your dumbell is not more dense than the house foundation supporting you and your carpet/wood floor

Remove the house entirely then. Simply place a dumbbell on a piece of wood outside. The dumbbell isn’t slicing through the wood. Actually ignore the dumbbell/wood example all together...The greater point that I’m making is that your rant on floating bodies doesn’t make any sense because you ignore the fact that buoyancy can counteract gravity.

Gravity supposedly IS an all-encompassing all-pervasive force

But that does not mean it can’t be overcome or counteracted. Hell, just raise your arm. Also compared to other natural forces (strong/weak nuclear forces, chemical bonds, etc) gravity is weak as fukk.

It's also a completely illogical concept. Isaac Newton himself said so, and I can prove that again in here if I have to

what is illogical about it?
Newton expressed that he didn’t know how it was transmitted, that his equations were only for the calculations of the force. And anyway, there is no “Cardinal” scientist, Newton was no “god”. If he was confused about something...welcome to being human???

Also I don't think I understand what you mean by the bold

statics: usually a prerequisite in mechanical engineering, study of internal and external forces on static bodies.

 

[JOHN.KOOL]

Nah occultism is a b*stardized from of ancient African spiritual practices, I know the difference

Occultists don't recognize a Creator, their god is "knowledge"

Not true. There are many occultiats who subscribe to a God or creator figure, see names like Helena Blavatsky. There are alot of Occultists who preach a twisted version of the biblical narrative, complete with quoting biblical scripture. Many who believe Satan is the hero for liberating Mankind and Jehovah wanted to keep man in the dark.

They subscribe to the belief that the two beings are real but equal in power.

As I said before all of it, from occultism to new age spiritualism to Eastern mystisim and religions to ancient practices whether Greek, Egyptian or any other African practises, they all come from satanism. Lucifer is the root of them all.

Your 'ancestors' as you call them just like the incas and the mayans and the babylonians all worshipped, honoured and sacrificed to demons unawares.

 

[PharaohAtem]

I try not to think about it, hurts my brain.

 

[JQ Legend]

Logic wasn't created, it was discoved, and existed before there was anything to describe it. It is eternal, timeless, spaceless, and immaterial. However, it is not personal as it cannot act. It exists necessarily because it cannot NOT exist.

If the Universe were to cease existing, logic would still exist.​

Pretty interesting perspective

Like some dude said here, time is a human construct.
I'm not 100% our biblical God exists, but there lies a source of energy that's purpose is to give life. With that kind of power, I wont be surprised its eternal.

Unless u referring to someone else in this thread that was me who said time is a human construct. That’s what I tell people verbatim even irl. Time is a man made measurement that only exists when man is trying to make sense out of 2 different expressions of the present moment.

God is a atheist

God got low self esteem and need to believe in himself more

 

[JQ Legend]

Not true. There are many occultiats who subscribe to a God or creator figure, see names like Helena Blavatsky. There are alot of Occultists who preach a twisted version of the biblical narrative, complete with quoting biblical scripture. Many who believe Satan is the hero for liberating Mankind and Jehovah wanted to keep man in the dark.

They subscribe to the belief that the two beings are real but equal in power.

As I said before all of it, from occultism to new age spiritualism to Eastern mystisim and religions to ancient practices whether Greek, Egyptian or any other African practises, they all come from satanism. Lucifer is the root of them all.

Your 'ancestors' as you call them just like the incas and the mayans and the babylonians all worshipped, honoured and sacrificed to demons unawares.

What has you so convinced Lucifer is the “devil”?

And how does Eastern mysticism fit into this? I don’t think I’ve ever heard of a person who subscribes to Eastern philosophy even believing in a devil. Actually no one believes in a devil like Christians and other Bible based religions. I’d go as far as to say they created the devil they’re so afraid of.

But yea I wouldn’t be surprised to find out there is some Truth to Lucifer being more of a savior than the God worshipped by Abrahamic religions.

 

[xCivicx]

Not true. There are many occultiats who subscribe to a God or creator figure, see names like Helena Blavatsky. There are alot of Occultists who preach a twisted version of the biblical narrative, complete with quoting biblical scripture. Many who believe Satan is the hero for liberating Mankind and Jehovah wanted to keep man in the dark.

They subscribe to the belief that the two beings are real but equal in power.

As I said before all of it, from occultism to new age spiritualism to Eastern mystisim and religions to ancient practices whether Greek, Egyptian or any other African practises, they all come from satanism. Lucifer is the root of them all.

Your 'ancestors' as you call them just like the incas and the mayans and the babylonians all worshipped, honoured and sacrificed to demons unawares.

Satan = lucifer = "enlightened one" = knowledge

Occultists reject the creator in favor of an imperfect creation

They choose to follow the enlightened one in order to try and become god

Your posts aren't in disagreement with mine, you seem to want to shadowbox in here though, I'm not sure why?

 

[JOHN.KOOL]

What has you so convinced Lucifer is the “devil”?

And how does Eastern mysticism fit into this? I don’t think I’ve ever heard of a person who subscribes to Eastern philosophy even believing in a devil. Actually no one believes in a devil like Christians and other Bible based religions. I’d go as far as to say they created the devil they’re so afraid of.

But yea I wouldn’t be surprised to find out there is some Truth to Lucifer being more of a savior than the God worshipped by Abrahamic religions.

Your last paragraph is purely based on the love for the sins you participate in.

You dont have to believe in the devil to worship and honor him, he will accept praise in any name he can fool you into honoring him with. He even responds when your simply calling out to the 'universe'

Your taking about what you believe, I am telling you what I know, there's a difference. If you had ever been acquainted with Lucifer you would know.

 

[JOHN.KOOL]

Satan = lucifer = "enlightened one" = knowledge

Occultists reject the creator in favor of an imperfect creation

They choose to follow the enlightened one in order to try and become god

Your posts aren't in disagreement with mine, you seem to want to shadowbox in here though, I'm not sure why?

I'm not 'shadowboxing' you have changed what you said.

Your original post to me said that occultists don't believe in a God, they believe knowledge is God

I responded and then all of a sudden you have changed what you said to align for closely with what I said then claimed our posts are not in disagreement. Read my first post and your response, there was clear disagreement which I addressed.

My point is simple, not 'shadowboxing' whatever the hell that is suppose to mean, I have been very very clear in all my posts by stating it all finds its roots in Lucifer and satanism. Straight forward point.

 

[xCivicx]

Remove the house entirely then. Simply place a dumbbell on a piece of wood outside. The dumbbell isn’t slicing through the wood. Actually ignore the dumbbell/wood example all together...The greater point that I’m making is that your rant on floating bodies doesn’t make any sense because you ignore the fact that buoyancy can counteract gravity.



But that does not mean it can’t be overcome or counteracted. Hell, just raise your arm. Also compared to other natural forces (strong/weak nuclear forces, chemical bonds, etc) gravity is weak as fukk.



what is illogical about it?
Newton expressed that he didn’t know how it was transmitted, that his equations were only for the calculations of the force. And anyway, there is no “Cardinal” scientist, Newton was no “god”. If he was confused about something...welcome to being human???



statics: usually a prerequisite in mechanical engineering, study of internal and external forces on static bodies.

By the bold's logic, water is an anti-gravity device smh

With respect to the underlined, NO ONE has been able to explain the magical invisible force known as gravity, that is both strong and weak at the same time, and can apparently affect celestial bodies hundreds of millions of lightyears away without any visible evidence of doing so

Again, after newton invented the concept of gravity, and old wiser newton realized is was trash. This is fact

At GT, "statics" isn't it's own course iirc. It's a subset of physics 1, which I skipped at GT because I took it in high school

 

[xCivicx]

I'm not 'shadowboxing' you have changed what you said.

Your original post to me said that occultists don't believe in a God, they believe knowledge is God

I responded and then all of a sudden you have changed what you said to align for closely with what I said then claimed our posts are not in disagreement. Read my first post and your response, there was clear disagreement which I addressed.

My point is simple, not 'shadowboxing' whatever the hell that is suppose to mean, I have been very very clear in all my posts by stating it all finds its roots in Lucifer and satanism. Straight forward point.

If a person truly believes in god, then that person knows that there is no way that the creation can ever be on the same level as the creator

Occultists believe that they can become god through luciferian enlightenment, which means that they don't actually believe in god

They believe in a being that's "above" us, who's power can be obtained

"Shadowboxing" means you're arguing with yourself

 

[xCivicx]

Your last paragraph is purely based on the love for the sins you participate in.

You dont have to believe in the devil to worship and honor him, he will accept praise in any name he can fool you into honoring him with. He even responds when your simply calling out to the 'universe'

Your taking about what you believe, I am telling you what I know, there's a difference. If you had ever been acquainted with Lucifer you would know.

Super disagree with the bold, but I'll skip that for now

Do you believe in god?

 

[JOHN.KOOL]

Super disagree with the bold, but I'll skip that for now

Do you believe in god?

You disagree because of your lack of knowledge. I'm not telling you what I think or believe I'm telling you what I know.

Yes