Who created God?

[DPresidential]

Hold up...


What if... GOD is really the concept of opportunity.

Like, dead ass, opportunity or the concept of "possibility" is something that never had to be created. Possibility or "the possibility of something" is the ONLY THING THAT NEVER NEEDED TO HAVE A START DATE.

Think about it...

You could say...,"well, Pres, opportunity had to have been created."

I'd counter by saying, okay, but of we go back further, there had to be a possibility of something to create the circumstances for the original "opportunity or possibility of our something (universe) to be here."

Opportunity is the ONLY checkmate against time because it can always be backdated before the counter argument of "well, something had to have brought the possibility into view".

shyt, I feel like I'm making sense but I'm not articulating it right.

I love this thread, by the way.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

But how could something exist without having been created first?

Again, not coming at anyone's beliefs...I just don't understand how this is logically possible .

Logic wasn't created, it was discoved, and existed before there was anything to describe it. It is eternal, timeless, spaceless, and immaterial. However, it is not personal as it cannot act. It exists necessarily because it cannot NOT exist.

If the Universe were to cease existing, logic would still exist.​

 

[UberEatsDriver]

No one did cause God has always existed.

makes no sense

 

[DPresidential]

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Logic wasn't created, it was discoved, and existed before there was anything to describe it. It is eternal, timeless, spaceless, and immaterial. However, it is not personal as it cannot act. It exists necessarily because it cannot NOT exist.

If the Universe were to cease existing, logic would still exist.​

Hmmm....

I don't know.

Logic seems to be something that seems static and concrete because it is the rule set of the reality or existence that you or we find ourselves in.

I also feel as if "logic" needs a conscious observer to classify it as such. Without a conscious observer, "logic" can go off the rails and have much different rules than what we see now.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

There is no god. The world is an illusion and when we die we are born another human with no memory of the past life.

 

[kwazzy100]

Like some dude said here, time is a human construct.
I'm not 100% our biblical God exists, but there lies a source of energy that's purpose is to give life. With that kind of power, I wont be surprised its eternal.

 

[Ol’Otis]

we die we are born another human with no memory of the past life.

i hope not


this ol twisted ass life


imagine being born in 2100

 

[Coli Bot]

But how could something exist without having been created first?

Again, not coming at anyone's beliefs...I just don't understand how this is logically possible .

Your mind cant understand because it exists and is based within the rules and constructs of time. You are not able to comprehend it because it's not your reality.

It's like a laptop computer trying to understand its creator. It's not possible.

Once you leave this physical body behind and move into the spiritual world after death it might make more sense but until then I wouldn't even try to understand it.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

i hope not


this ol twisted ass life


imagine being born in 2100

you might be born with no gender lol

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Hmmm....

I don't know.

Logic seems to be something that seems static and concrete because it is the rule set of the reality or existence that you or we find ourselves in.

I also feel as if "logic" needs a conscious observer to classify it as such. Without a conscious observer, "logic" can go off the rails and have much different rules than what we see now.

Logic doesn't need an observer. Conscious or otherwise. The premise: 'There is no life in the Universe', would be necessarily true if there were no life in the Universe to state the premise in the first place.​

 

[Ol’Otis]

you might be born with no gender lol

 

[Ghpstface]

The Chicken or the Egg b??

The egg came first. It was laid by something that was not a chicken

 

[Coli Bot]

This is one of things that freak me out whenever I try to think of this my head starts feeling dizzy
Why can’t we comprehend this?

Because we have been designed not to.

Does an ant understand love?

Does a bee understand socialism and philosophy?

Does a bird understand the hidden messages of Shakespeare's works?

No... but these things exist. Why do we assume humans have the capacity to understand everything in this universe? The ant, the bee and the bird probably think they know it all but they dont know shyt. Isn't it possible then that theres a higher being looking at us the way we look at those animals?

 

[BlackDiBiase]

the father created god.

in kemit (ancient eygpt) they were worshiping the sun. the pyramids are closer to the sun/constellations for prayer.

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

For this universe to exist there has to be something that is given the characteristic of eternal (everlasting and indestructible) or nothing makes sense.

For Atheists, they have their holy trinity of matter, dark matter, and dark energy. As we have been taught from 2nd grade science classes, "matter cannot be created nor destroyed."
So Atheists gave the godly characteristic of eternal (everlasting and indestructible) to matter and they believe that this universe's matter has always existed and just one day began to expand and in another day it will collapse onto itself and the cycle continues. That's a theory known as the Big Crunch and Big Bounce. Another theory is that the universe will expand eternally. This is known as Heat Death or the Big Freeze.

Religious people ascribe that characteristic to God. For us, God created the concept of time so therefore God is not bound to it.
God exists outside the boundary of time. God has no beginning or end. That is a quality of the creation, not the creator.

If you can believe that matter cannot be created nor destroyed it shouldn't be hard that to believe that God (with His immeasurable power) has no beginning nor end (God can't be created).

Matter can be created from nothing, it just has to balance out to zero (negative matter has to be created too.)

In fact particles pop in and out in the vacuum of space constantly.

What you can't have is a bunch of regular matter come from nothing without corresponding negative matter.