Who created God?
- Thread starter levitate
- Start date
BlackDiBiase
Superstar
JOHN.KOOL
Manchester United/Atletico Madrid
I just did in plain english explain why it must be, are you asking me to explain exactly how that works? how the hell am i supposed to know the process? I dont need to know the process however, i clearly pointed out how no matter what you believe for anything to exist something had to be the root of it all, something had to start it all off and that very first thing had to have had no beginning and came from nothing. Thats not rocket science, thats a simple thought to grasp.
Its becoming clear you dont want to acknowledge that however and dont actually want to 'reconcile' anything.
Bare in mind for there to be a beginning to anything there must be time, there is no such thing as a beginning without the concept of time, anything that transcends and is not a slave to time has no beginning, God would be beyond time, therefore he would have no beginning
Last edited:
Rollo Goodlove
Palestine Titty
God of this planet was an abortion deity
Swahili P'Bitek
Absorbingpovertywithoutlimitations
Observation of natural phenomena which were beyond human interpretation at the time made humans come up with tales and characters who were responsible for their formation.
Over a period of time, these characters became legends, then spiritual custodians of these phenomena, then finally gods. Some people revered certain gods more than others and formed cults dedicated around these gods, and this was the start of monotheistic beliefs. I'm not saying God does not exist, but that if he does, he reveals himself to the material world through his creations.
Over a period of time, these characters became legends, then spiritual custodians of these phenomena, then finally gods. Some people revered certain gods more than others and formed cults dedicated around these gods, and this was the start of monotheistic beliefs. I'm not saying God does not exist, but that if he does, he reveals himself to the material world through his creations.
There is no God. We are in a simulation ran by some other intelligent beings.
levitate
I love you, you know.
With all due respect you are not explaining anything, but rather stating “this is how it is”...
You have not logically presented an argument as to why “the very first thing had to come from nothing”. You are simply stating it to be true. OK, we’ll present an argument as to why it is true. You state that “it’s not rocket science” as if greater minds than yours and mine haven’t debated this topic for millennia...as if the shyt is settled science.
Pacni99a12
All Star
Man thats deep. This may not even be what you were saying but it kinda hit me.For something to have a beginning must mean it has an end. It makes sense that the universe (or whatever you call it ) goes on for eternity, but if that is the case then the other side of that is that it had no beginning
Its quite the mystery to say the least. Look how wild we are. The creatures (us) who have been blessed with so much still have the audacity to doubt and constantly question the Creator.
According to these verses I believe you can ask God, just come with respect. Just know he doesn't work on our time. So be patient.
Matthew 7:7-12 NKJV
Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.
For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened.
Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone?
Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent?
If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask Him!
Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.
Dafunkdoc_Unlimited
Theological Noncognitivist Since Birth
- Joined
- Jul 25, 2012
- Messages
- 45,062
- Reputation
- 8,040
- Daps
- 122,408
- Reppin
- The Wrong Side of the Tracks
Pacni99a12 said:Man thats deep. This may not even be what you were saying but it kinda hit me.For something to have a beginning must mean it has an end. It makes sense that the universe (or whatever you call it ) goes on for eternity, but if that is the case then the other side of that is that it had no beginning
That, however, is not the case with the Universe. It DID have a beginning and, due to the laws of physics, WILL end.
This does not hold true for logic.
It had no beginning and has no end. Consider the following: IF the Universe didn't exist, the premise "The Universe does not exist" would be true even if there was nothing that existed to conceive of the premise.
It had no beginning and has no end. Consider the following: IF the Universe didn't exist, the premise "The Universe does not exist" would be true even if there was nothing that existed to conceive of the premise.
they were worshipping the sun (son) and didnt even know it
God is real.This is similar to us all being characters in a book, and questioning the existence of the author or the authors creator.
Also, why do people keep saying time is a man made event? This is like saying measurement/distance is man made.
we may refer to it in our own terms. (lightyear, second, miles). But even without these names, they still exist. We cant fathom that our belief matters for nothing. If you believe/dont believe in God, that does not impact God's ability to exist
Time/distance were made before we were. Example: at every point in time, nothing is in a fixed position. Everything is always moving, your self, Earth, the sun, the solar system, galaxy, etc. we know there is space between these objects, and we know it takes time to get across that distance.
last comment: Let there be light corresponds directly to the scientific theory of a big bang event (theorized by looking back in actual time/space). long before we had telescopes. Somebody told Noah (descendant of Adam) what occurred. Possibly passed down through the 10 generation or told by God.
BlackDiBiase
Superstar
they were worshipping the sun (son) and didnt even know it
This is similar to us all being characters in a book, and questioning the existence of the author or the authors creator.
Also, why do people keep saying time is a man made event? This is like saying measurement/distance is man made.
we may refer to it in our own terms. (lightyear, second, miles). But even without these names, they still exist. We cant fathom that our belief matters for nothing. If you believe/dont believe in God, that does not impact God's ability to exist
Time/distance were made before we were. Example: at every point in time, nothing is in a fixed position. Everything is always moving, your self, Earth, the sun, the solar system, galaxy, etc. we know there is space between these objects, and we know it takes time to get across that distance.
last comment: Let there be light corresponds directly to the scientific theory of a big bang event (theorized by looking back in actual time/space). long before we had telescopes. Somebody told Noah (descendant of Adam) what occurred. Possibly passed down through the 10 generation or told by God.
your whole post was an effortless performance props but the what i highlighted is deep, never come across that view point before.
