Who Had The Bigger Impact? Cash Money Or No Limit [Update: Poll Added]
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IllmaticDelta
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Yes, a form of IMPACT!
Yea, no limit had a universal southern sound
CM based all their shyt around bounce
Dumb ass peabrain take from a certified NL haterOk yeah I'm arguing with a Stan
No Limit ain't have no damn platinum or gold albums from 1993-1996
CMR was gonna blow without No Limit regardless. They didn't need them, especially seeing how they remained relevant and had hits into the 21st century, where as NL was done by 2000
Down South Hustlers, True (both 1995) went gold and Ice Cream Man (1996) went platinum you knuckhlehead
CMR followed NL footsteps in 99 via their Universal deal (which was different n less worth longterm than P's distribution deal with Priority). CMR never would have gotten such a sweet 30milly deal without No Limit. FOH troll
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
this one is easy.
i always go back-n-forth wrecking my brain as to who is better, but no limit soldiers clearly had the bigger impact.
anyone who says otherwise, either doesnt know their history, or they have an ulterior motive.
i always go back-n-forth wrecking my brain as to who is better, but no limit soldiers clearly had the bigger impact.
anyone who says otherwise, either doesnt know their history, or they have an ulterior motive.
Marlo Barksdale
Really out chea
I'd say No Limit tried to be more universal by being more "mainstream" with it but CMR actually became mainstream by staying true to their N.O. roots.
From the slang to the look to the songs, CMR went further because it was authentic to New Orleans and unique. That whole late 90s/ early 00s era is the "Bling Era" because of them.
P hit the quick lick and opened the gates. Trailblazer for sure. But CMR did more overall and lasted by just doing them. P's Achilles heel is the fact he is an excellent at copying (many say "biting") and improving somebody else's idea, but he can't come up with an original ideas.
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
naw.
cash money made larger attempts to be more mainstream.
no limit had mostly street cuts as hit singles.
no limit was more universal in terms of not having a regional sound, as they didnt even start the label in the south. they made music that naturally reasonated with the west, south, midwest and even the east. and they didnt bother to pander of try to fit in with the east like cash money did.
and cmon brohski. BLING BLING is about as mainstream/commercial as it gets. how you gonna act like CMR wasnt chasing mainstream?
cash money blew up off of radio songs. they didnt blow up off of songs like "cash money is an army". on the other hand, no limit was actually making hits out of b-side type tracks.
alot of misinformation in your post.
Marlo Barksdale
Really out chea
CMR wasn't making overt attempts to be mainstream. The mainstream came to them. The song & videos that blew them up were "Ha" and that's as unconventional as you can get, followed by "Back That Azz Up" which was straight N.O. bounce.
NL was directly following the Puffy formula of using 80's & 70's hits as samples for their singles.
P wanted to be more universal and it worked short term, but long term it didn't have the longevity. He eventually went to straight up copying CMR.
To sum it up, NL were the trailblazers and set the blueprint nationally. Locally, CMR were the trendsetters and they followed NL's footsteps to become their own unique nationwide monster. They stayed down til they came up and it has resulted in their legacy having more of a direct impact over time. NL is Dr. J and CMR is MJ.
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
CMR didnt go mainstream with HA. they went mainstream with the combo of back that thang up/bling bling/we on fire.....and while that was going on, the only mainstream squad with harder singles than no limit was ruff ryders.
and darn near all of CMR videos were tailored towards commercial success, to the point where they dropped the ball on songs that shouldve been singles because they wanted to keep their rehash routine - and their sales dropped because of it.
the samples werent puffy's formula. darn near everybody was sampling like crazy back then. in fact, no limit was already heavy with it before it became synonymous with puffy.
jordan was more influenced by david thompson, rather than Dr J.
also, MJ/Dr J barely played at the same time.
and please explain how CMR's legacy has more of a "direct impact over time". CMR went on to have a bubblegum run with '90s/'00s babies via young money, but those kids dont know nothing about the hot boys & big tymers. them youngns are more familiar with master p actually.
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Marlo Barksdale
Really out chea
CMR didnt go mainstream with HA. they went mainstream with the combo of back that thang up/bling bling/we on fire.....and while that was going on, the only mainstream squad with harder singles than no limit was ruff ryders.
and darn near all of CMR videos were tailored towards commercial success, to the point where they dropped the ball on songs that shouldve been singles because they wanted to keep their rehash routine - and their sales dropped because of it.
the samples werent puffy's formula. darn near everybody was sampling like crazy back then. in fact, no limit was already heavy with it before it became synonymous with puffy.
jordan was more influenced by david thompson, rather than Dr J.
also, MJ/Dr J barely played at the same time.
and please explain how CMR's legacy has more of a "direct impact over time". CMR went on to have a bubblegum run with '90s/'00s babies via young money, but those kids dont know nothing about the hot boys & big tymers. them youngns are more familiar with master p actually.
CMR went mainstream with Ha meaninf that video got so much MTV love and talk from people. CMR's other videos were stuntin but not "commercial" at all down to their attire.
Those blatant samples are 100% Puffy's formula in the late 90's. You could always tell that Track #1 or #2 on almost every NL album was clearly the single because of the obvious sample and polished hook. CMR didn't really sample.
MJ himself said he looked up to Dr. J and modeled his game after him. CMR didn't sound like NL but they saw that success from N.O. was possible nationwide and they took advange after P opened the doors.
CMR's slang is used everywhere (wodie, hot girl, hot boy, etc). They ushered in the white tees and platinum diamond grills. They get sampled all the time. That Big Tymers "get Your Roll On" flow is copied everywhere. Kevin Gates & NBA Youngboy are a direct part of the CM tree. CMR knew how to rebrand while NL failed at it.
Take It In Blood
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the eastcoast fukked with Cashmoney more than No Limit
CMR broke through with "Ha", "Back That" took them mainstream.
The blatant sampling was 100% Trackmasters and JD before Puffy and The Hitmen went overboard with it.
CMR's slang isn't really CMR slang as much as it is New Orleans slang because No Limit used it too. It wasn't biting because No Limit was from the same area. Their Magnolia Projects artists (specifically Soulja Slim) used the slang. No Limit even had a body guard named Hot Boy Jimmy.
No Limit gets sampled and remade too. Problem and other artists remade "How Ya Do That". Usher had "No Limit". Rick Ross had "300 Soldiers".
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
so much wrong with this post, but i see that @JustCKing already handled most of it in the post above.
so i'll just eat the table-scraps and respond to what he leftover.
of course youre gonna have a polished hook for a single. wutang and others would do the same thing. that doesnt equate to aiming str8 for daytime radio.
athletes look up to multiple players. i specifically said that jordan's main influence was david thompson. the whole MJ/Dr J comparison is lazy casual chit.
white-tees were around before cash money.
CMR failed at most of their rebrand attempts
