Who has the stronger discography, Gucci or 50?
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i will. guccis dropped some great music, but i cant see him fukkin with 01-04 50. im all ears thothats why i post here
But you should be evaluating their entire body of work until now in a comparison of discographies, no? Without question 50's early 2000s run is something legendary, but you also have to factor in the sharp drop off in quality after the GRODT Soundtrack. Unless of course, you don't see a drop off there.
As of now they've the same number of votes...
Have you heard his entire discography? I'm asking seriously, because Gucci has some 80+ projects to date, and it can seem overwhelming to someone if they haven't been following him for a while.
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Gucci Mane easily. The GOAT mixtape catalog unless you wanna throw prime Wayne in the mix.
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GOAT trap song. Ever.
:fif: sold millions but isn't even MC hammer status in 2015
As of now they've the same number of votes...
Have you heard his entire discography? I'm asking seriously, because Gucci has some 80+ projects to date, and it can seem overwhelming to someone if they haven't been following him for a while.
50 has legendary songs that still hold up. Superb beats, great voice. Gucci doesn't have a song anywhere as good as "Wanksta", not to talk about "In da Club", "Many Men", "High All The Time", "What Up Gangsta" etc.
I haven't heard a single Gucci song that approaches good, not to talk about great or even legendary. I'm being real. I don't like a single thing about Gucci. I think his voice is dull, his approach is dull and his beats are dull. Then again, he has a shyt ton of stuff. And i haven't even heard 1/15th of it (nor am I trying to). Maybe you can put me on to his GRODT-level stuff and I'll give it another try.
I just don't think it exists.
i like 50, shyt ain't even close though. gucci's prison albums is shytting on anything 50 did in the past 5 years. 50 had a very underrated/slept on run from 08 to 11, his solo shyt kinda been meh since. i fux with them both though.
this shyt is heat.
wish we got more collabs.
this shyt is heat.
wish we got more collabs.
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That's fair, but I can't help but notice that all the songs you mentioned came from one project. Get Rich is a classic, and the first album I ever purchased. But you have to look at consistency, retention of fans, rise/wane in popularity... each of those is affected by the strength of discography over time. In that, without a doubt in my mind Gucci wins.
As for your opinion of Gucci and his music, we're just so far apart there. I find that his beats are the exact opposite of dull: his chemistry with producers like Zaytoven and Mike WiLL have withstood the test of time. If you analyze him from a technical standpoint, you must appreciate his mastery of flows. He's able to switch flows mid verse like it's nothing.
Today, I find 50's music to be dull and uninspired. His beat selection today is just flat up weird, and his insistence on covering the same topics makes him feel robotic and disinterested, like that last Terminator movie.
No you don't. That's ridiculous to me.
When the smoke clears, and their time has long passed, who has made something lasting that someone can cherish? That's all that matters.
It's 50. and it's not even close. Let's say that GRODT has only 5 superb records. If we're being super critical. "What Up Gangsta", "Many Men", "High All The Time", "Wanksta" and "In The Club".
Gucci has not released a single song as good as any of those tracks. So why the fukk would I care about his discography?
50 is someone you compare with Mobb Deep, Nas, etc. Guys who have made songs just as good as the 5 I mentioned, if not better.
But fukking ice cream face?
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No you don't. That's ridiculous to me.
When the smoke clears, and their time has long passed, who has made something lasting that someone can cherish? That's all that matters.
It's 50. and it's not even close. Let's say that GRODT has only 5 superb records. If we're being super critical. "What Up Gangsta", "Many Men", "High All The Time", "Wanksta" and "In The Club".
Gucci has not released a single song as good as any of those tracks. So why the fukk would I care about his discography?
50 is someone you compare with Mobb Deep, Nas, etc. Guys who have made songs just as good as the 5 I mentioned, if not better.
But fukking ice cream face?
You're willfully changing the scope of the argument. Who cares if 50 had five superb records twelve years ago if today he is dropping garbage? At what point will past success no longer be an excuse for present mediocrity? 50's always been focused on singles, big chart toppers. Not so much album cuts or today even mixtapes. That's fine, until you begin discussing his catalog as a whole.
More importantly, if we're going to look at who's made something "lasting" or that can be cherished, wouldn't you want to place your money on the guy who's virtually birthed numerous artists, many of whom are very popular today? A couple summers ago it was Migos, this summer looks like it's going to be Fetty Wap, shyt, even Young Thug cites Gucci as one of his prime mentors; Zaytoven is as popular as ever and his production style is getting copied by others.
As for your first remark, please explain how retention of fans is not something that is affected by the strength of your discography? 50 came out of the gate huge, and was the biggest artist in the world at the time if you ask some people. Is he anywhere near that level of fame or relevance today? Is he even that dedicated to his music still? Gucci on the other hand has steadily risen in popularity, and has gained acceptance. He's done so by providing his listeners will ample, free, consistent music; and he's very attentive to what his fans like and don't like.
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50 was literally hot in the streets for about 2 years.
Gucci is almost a decade deep and his core fanbase still loves him...still has influence over today's game getting praise from every rapper in his lane, while 50 has been
since Kanye crushed the buildings.
Yes...he's rich. He's big IG personality..but musically nobody has given a fukk about dude for years because he never evolved from his basic superthug raps and dull beats.
Gucci is almost a decade deep and his core fanbase still loves him...still has influence over today's game getting praise from every rapper in his lane, while 50 has been
since Kanye crushed the buildings.Yes...he's rich. He's big IG personality..but musically nobody has given a fukk about dude for years because he never evolved from his basic superthug raps and dull beats.
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Giving game to lames since the 90s
Gucci Mane... And it's pretty easy to me
Take away GRODT and a few mixtape songs and 50 is left with nothing. I can't remember a dope 50 song from the last 5 years
Take away GRODT and a few mixtape songs and 50 is left with nothing. I can't remember a dope 50 song from the last 5 years
Because I don't give a fukk about popularity contests. and this is what modern rap has devolved into. Which is why the genre is such garbage.
I'd rather have someone come into the genre, drop an amazing slew of records, then fall the fukk off. Than some lame coast along in the genre for decades dropping devoted doo doo. Person A at least raised the bar. Person B does everything in his power to keep the bar low.
We're hip hop fans with memories, not goldfish.
This question would make sense if people still thought 50 was hot and acted like he's still dropping fire. Just like people do with my favorite rapper Nas. They'll overrate his modern catalogue just because he dropped one of the best albums in music history long ago.
What is this, a contest? My nikka, I don't give a fukk. I'm a music fan. I just want good music I can always play.
Gucci has birthed disposable garbage. That's nothing to be proud of. In fact, Gucci hasn't birthed it really. He was just the right nikka at the right time. Lots of external circumstances birthed Gucci and other trash hip hop artists. Jeezy birthed Gucci, yet you're not talking about garbage ass snowman. And when the smoke clears, his legacy is questionable.
Make it clear - I'm not 'hating' on Gucci because he's not lyrical miracle spiritual. I'm hating on him because his music is vapid and dull. There's nothing inspiring about it at all. Doesn't inspire me to dance, to feel, to be bold... nothing. It's just generic ratchet fodder.
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Again, this isn't a popularity contest and it's pathetic that we're concerned about that in hip hop, as opposed to who has made powerful music. By the way, more people play 50 worldwide than Gucci so even by that metric, you lose. Sure it's his old shyt, but the fact of the matter is that his tracks have more staying power than Gucci.
Gucci just floods the market with crap to keep himself relevant for his fans. He'll fall off completely when most of you grow out of his music or he stops releasing. And he won't be doing shows outside his home state a decade after the fact like 50 is.
Who by the way is doing shows worldwide a decade after the fact.
But you can't take that away from him. that's what's hilarious about this thread.
You're forcing Gucci's legacy, while 50 already has one cemented in stone. There is no comparison.
Was that shyt. But wop easily the goat trap rapper