Dog Based Gremlin
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WWE wont let these guys pull out their movesets
These guys can go
These guys can go
Who in your opinion is the most overrated talent currently in the WWE?
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BodeineBrazy
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So why does nobody care about them? If they can work the crowd would be into what their doing.
How can u be a good worker but not have the crowd engaged?
I'll wait...
Wrestling is Fake... it's not real... so I don't care what flips and lifts them nikkas can do. That's not doing good work.
That's the equivalent of saying somebody is a good ball player because they can do cool dribble moves and trick shots. shyt is worthless.
What makes either of them "a good worker"?
NotAnFBIagent
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Tell alternative facts brehs
Both of them are over with crowds
"These indy dudes cannot work an audience without doing a high spot. They dont know how to establish connection."
Cesaro basically wills the crowd into every match he's inthe crowd loves him, but the WWE can't decide what his gimmick is. Is he James Bond? Is he a stripper? Is he Jason Statham? Whatever it is, he hasn't gone all the way with either, he's basically all 3, including now wearing a kilt like Sheamus (who in turn started wearing shades like Cesaro). But can't say he doesn't connect with the crowd, cause that would be a flat out lie.
AquaCityBoy
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BodeineBrazy
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Those dudes are not fukking over. Do y'all know what over is? It's not being cheered for spots.
How are they over at all? Only wrestlers that are remotely over are Cena, Miz, AJ, New Day and Orton.
How the fukk is Cesaro lukewarm ass over?!?!?
That nikka is the epitome of new era buncha moves, can't cut a promo, can't do anything other than fake wrestling moves ass wrestler.
"These indy dudes cannot work an audience without doing a high spot. They dont know how to establish connection."
Cesaro basically wills the crowd into every match he's in
How does he connect with the crowd and u urself said in your own post you don't know who he is.
There is nothing there to be over.
Do people root for Cesaro? Yes. I root for him too. But he lacks the little things.
Is he "OVER"? emphatically NO. The little things get you over.
Being "Over" means people are 100% invested in YOUR CHARACTER!!!
He has none, zero, zilch.
Most fans don't take well to them two nikkas outside of them having "Indy cred".
This the problem with wrestling now. And why Vince will always be smarter than the fans.
Y'all nikkas think "he has SOOOOO MANNNYYY MOVES" he has to be great!!! And moves don't mean shyt on a national scale. Wrestling is fake.
These dudes have to have a story, intangibles and character work. That's what engages people.
Kurt Angle one of the best, but his ring work is prolly the least important thing in his resume. And his ring work is excellent.
Just because u can play on the Harlem Globetrotters don't mean you can ball in the NBA.
I promise you that Corbin and Mojo will be around longer and make more money than both of them nikkas. Because they actually have intangibles. It ain't about German Suplexes and Toupe Suicidas at all.
People say The Rock can't work. But people to this day imitate his punches, his kicks, his taunts, that's what these dudes lack.
You cannot imitate these new nikkas they are a blank slate.
NotAnFBIagent
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fukk outta here clown
Playaz Eyez
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Listen to the crowd during his matches, it ain't that hard to notice. It's pretty clear. Both him and Sami are both over even without having defined characters, and not just to snark crowds. I'd say Sami is [obviously] more over cause he does that underdog face thing we'll, something Cesaro can't do being like 4 inches taller and 20+ pounds bigger. This whole post is laughable and all over the place tbh.
BodeineBrazy
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fukk outta here clown
Cesaro and Zayn are the poster boys for corny new era wrestlers and exactly why people see wrestling on and say "Who the fukk are these dweebs. This was better when Stone Cold and The Rock were around."
You think that ZAYN or Cesaro will get the strap before Corbin? Corbin will be champ in a year and a half easy. He's former NFL, has a great look and height, legit golden gloves background, he's been super protected since his NXT days. It's really just a matter of timing at this point. Heel Champ written all over him.
They clearly see money in duke. I do too. When Scott Hall went to the performance center he mentored who? The Undertaker is also Corbin's mentor... but you know more than both of them dudes right?
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Mojo is already being set up for a major push. And I think he's corny as hell, but he is sellable to mainstream America. He's relatable, has a great story, NFL back ground, and he has a character that has good merchandising legs. It's corny, but corny always does well because most people are fukking corny. They are going to invest into that. Dude is cringeworthy Yup, but there is a market for him. His story is inspirational as hell. Maybe it sticks, maybe not but it's definitely something there with him.
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Cesaro will never draw money because you can't draw blood from a stone. He's a CAW on WWF No Mercy 64. And I like to watch his matches. But then what? He don't have it. He's as far as he ever will go. A good hand who can do some cool shyt.
Zayn maybe... like I said. Maybe, but they don't have the minds backstage to get son over.
But right now they are dudes you could meet in a coffee shop and have a cool conversation about soccer with. Who cares if they can play fight well.
These new dudes are too preoccupied with play fighting.
They don't sharpen any of their other skills. Wrestling is performance art.
That's why the world only knows people smarks say couldn't "wrestle". But nobody asks Dean Malenko to come out and hype the team up before the big game.
fukk outta here
NotAnFBIagent
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Cesaro and Zayn are the poster boys for corny new era wrestlers and exactly why people see wrestling on and say "Who the fukk are these dweebs. This was better when Stone Cold and The Rock were around."
You think that ZAYN or Cesaro will get the strap before Corbin? Corbin will be champ in a year and a half easy. He's former NFL, has a great look and height, legit golden gloves background, he's been super protected since his NXT days. It's really just a matter of timing at this point. Heel Champ written all over him.
They clearly see money in duke. I do too. When Scott Hall went to the performance center he mentored who? The Undertaker is also Corbin's mentor... but you know more than both of them dudes right?
:rmstlkshi:
Mojo is already being set up for a major push. And I think he's corny as hell, but he is sellable to mainstream America. He's relatable, has a great story, NFL back ground, and he has a character that has good merchandising legs. It's corny, but corny always does well because most people are fukking corny. They are going to invest into that. Dude is cringeworthy Yup, but there is a market for him. His story is inspirational as hell. Maybe it sticks, maybe not but it's definitely something there with him.
:ootvince:
Cesaro will never draw money because you can't draw blood from a stone. He's a CAW on WWF No Mercy 64. And I like to watch his matches. But then what? He don't have it. He's as far as he ever will go. A good hand who can do some cool shyt.
Zayn maybe... like I said. Maybe, but they don't have the minds backstage to get son over.
But right now they are dudes you could meet in a coffee shop and have a cool conversation about soccer with. Who cares if they can play fight well.
These new dudes are too preoccupied with play fighting.
They don't sharpen any of their other skills. Wrestling is performance art.
That's why the world only knows people smarks say couldn't "wrestle". But nobody asks Dean Malenko to come out and hype the team up before the big game.
fukk outta here
>>>> everything u just said
BodeineBrazy
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Why I never see anyone on the train with a Cesaro shirt? I see classic shirts, I see Ziegler shirts, I see Cena shirts, I even see Roman shirts. But neither of these guys.
I watch every major PPV at Legends on 34th Street. Cesaro and Zayn come out to crickets. Where are their fans? People respect them and their body of work. But they aren't over.
What legendary matches, promos or moments would you show for them if they were inducted in the hall of fame?
Answer that for me.
I'll wait...
Tell me what got them over, what do people attach to...
Can u give me a Cesaro impression? Or a Zayn impression?
Do they have any cool catchphrases, when kids play fight in school do they imitate Cesaro and Zayn? If so how?
Can u tell me anyone who isn't a pimple faced, dry dikk dweeb that's a fan of Cesaro and Zayn? Is Lebron wearing Zayn shirts after championship wins? Are NFL teams calling in Cesaro to hype them up pre game or mimicking his moves in Touchdown celebrations?
Okay... if Cesaro and Zayn were released today from their contracts.
Would we get "Cesaro, Cesaro, Cesaro..." chants at every RAW for the next 2 years?
Them dudes not fukking over.
Your fukking over, with this bullshyt you just typed to me.
Bryan was over, Orton is over, Cena is over, New Day is over, AJ is over, Miz is over.
They have solidified characters, defined traits and purpose and people have bought in.
Zayn and Cesaro are two good hands. That's it.
They not shyt. And I like them. But if I'm running a business I'm not putting them to the front cuz they can do a lot of "moves".
BodeineBrazy
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>>>> everything u just said
So basically I'm right. Interesting these two gifs are from the most heat they ever got. And they are working with someone who is actually a great wrestler.
NotAnFBIagent
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Nah you're dead wrong
Playaz Eyez
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Why I never see anyone on the train with a Cesaro shirt? I see classic shirts, I see Ziegler shirts, I see Cena shirts, I even see Roman shirts. But neither of these guys.
I watch every major PPV at Legends on 34th Street. Cesaro and Zayn come out to crickets. Where are their fans? People respect them and their body of work. But they aren't over.
What legendary matches, promos or moments would you show for them if they were inducted in the hall of fame?
Answer that for me.
I'll wait...
Tell me what got them over, what do people attach to...
Can u give me a Cesaro impression? Or a Zayn impression?
Do they have any cool catchphrases, when kids play fight in school do they imitate Cesaro and Zayn? If so how?
Can u tell me anyone who isn't a pimple faced, dry dikk dweeb that's a fan of Cesaro and Zayn? Is Lebron wearing Zayn shirts after championship wins? Are NFL teams calling in Cesaro to hype them up pre game or mimicking his moves in Touchdown celebrations?
Okay... if Cesaro and Zayn were released today from their contracts.
Would we get "Cesaro, Cesaro, Cesaro..." chants at every RAW for the next 2 years?
Them dudes not fukking over.
Your fukking over, with this bullshyt you just typed to me.
Bryan was over, Orton is over, Cena is over, New Day is over, AJ is over, Miz is over.
They have solidified characters, defined traits and purpose and people have bought in.
Zayn and Cesaro are two good hands. That's it.
They not shyt. And I like them. But if I'm running a business I'm not putting them to the front cuz they can do a lot of "moves".
You sound like a Trump supporter, and one of those types of very lyrical rappers that can't actually make good songs, cause all of this is completely irrelevant to the fact that you can simply listen to the crowds in any city when they wrestle.