Who will be the first rapper to claim #ADOS?

[deeznutz93]

You showed your ass too. What does stick to northern affairs mean?

The AAs from up north are originally from the south and are very attached to their families out there.

Save the victim mentality please.

I never said stick to northern affairs. Keep showing your ass though.

 

[TripleAgent]

His best friend and business partner/manager is Black Dominican

Okay, what's your point?

 

[get these nets]

Apparently, it was for some. I think it was more so due to "black" meant "dark" to many -- and we had colorism issues -- and dark sadly meant ugly to many -- and we see that is still a issue for many today.

African-American --was used by white yes -- because they knew our origin -- as we did -- but we still knew we were Black/Negro first. I haven't seen in any narratives or studies where Blacks called themselves "African-American" in large numbers or as a description before Jesse.

I used to be ok with African-American - but I prefer Black - and I have only ever heard my family say they were Black - not African-American unless that is the only thing to pick.

On Black Power:

The earliest known usage of the term "Black Power" is found in Richard Wright's 1954 book Black Power.[11] New York politician Adam Clayton Powell Jr. used the term on May 29, 1966 during an address at Howard University: "To demand these God-given rights is to seek black power."[11]​

Black Power was popularized by Stokely but not coined -- he was given permission and push to use by the person who coined it -- Willie Ricks.

In fact, “Black Power” had been used as a civil rights rallying phrase by Willie Ricks, an SNCC man, before Carmichael used it on the “March Against Fear”. Ricks was so pleased with the response to the phrase that he urged Carmichael to use it in his speeches. However, not even Ricks could have predicted the response of the crowd to the phrase. Each time Carmichael shouted out “What do we want ?”, the reply “Black Power” got louder and louder. After June 1966, the call also was used by militants in anti-white rhetoric.​

ok

Thanks for the correction about S. Carmichael and the coining of the term, This is why I F with this forum, learn stuff everyday.

Colorism, class-ism and every other ism were/are the same issues faced by the other Africans in the diaspora. The difference between US and some of the non hispanic places is that the white people are gone...and the mixed race people are the defacto white people. That's for another thread, another day.

but "I'll be bock"

 

[Shoog Shatmi]

If I recall correctly, Biggs is actually from the Virgin Islands, St.Thomas. My older brother and uncle has met Hov on several occasions in the late 90s on the island. “St.Thomas my nikkas, it was me first” “All you muddaskunts /get buried in the trunk” I doubt Hov is, but in the late 90s he was there so much, people thought he was, but he was just cooling with Biggs.

Do US Virgin Islanders consider themselves American? I remember in college my friends and I were talking to this US VI girl and at one point she got heated because...I remember now, she was trying to get us to stop saying nikka, and at some point one of us said something like, "Well, you know, it's just something we do in America," and she snapped back, "I know, I am from the *US* Virgin Islands!" Like she was upset that we didn't recognize her Americanness.

 

[wastedmermaid]

Wait, can I still claim ADOS if my grandma was born in ST Thomas

 

[xoxodede]

Wait, can I still claim ADOS if my grandma was born in ST Thomas

The islands remained under Danish rule until 1917. Meaning her ancestors were enslaved under the Danish.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

Again, Louisiana is a state way larger than just Nee Orleans... look it up.

Don’t you dare try to say black people from the south aren’t ADOS. I hate this acronym shyt but don’t rewrite history. We all came from some island or another to America to work under American slavery. Disgusting

Most New Orleans Creoles were already around. He keeps hyping Haiti but that exchange was minimal, like a few thousand people.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

Therein lies the problem. You guys don't even know yourselves.

Not to antagonize, but I wonder how you feel about people who are say mixed (half African-American and half white)? Would you consider them eligible for reparations? It's possibe that their families could be white within a generation.

What about white people of [verifiable] black lineage. What if they came seeking reparations as well?

They wouldn't get anything and that's already been discussed. They lived white lives and have no claim + minimal lineage. Your "gotcha" isn't new. Keep the fake "not to antagonize" disclaimer to yourself.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

since it's a Twitter thing probably Talib

It's not a twitter thing.
Kweli is a male feminist BLM style progressive pan-african.
All the pannies have to accept all that other nonsense now.
#ADOS has been mentioned too many times for you to minimize it to twitter, and no, it was used on youtube beforehand.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

Not even a sizable percentage of LCs have Haitian ancestry...and we existed before y'all even became a nation.

 

[Jaylen Tatum]

isn't Cam half Domincan of something or is that Fabulous?

Fab lied

 

[Gold]

There are people who asks questions out of genuine curiosity and seek to gain knowledge/understanding
There are people who ask questions strictly to antagonize and aggravate, and despite their questions being answered, will proceed to ask the same questions at the next opportunity.

As I read through these ADOS centered threads, I see the same people asking the same questions about ADOS that have been answered time and time again... its silly.

If you guys hate the ADOS movement so much, avoid ADOS related threads. Its not that difficult.

I, for one, have actually learned alot about not only African American history but American history in general from some of these threads. Certain posters like @xoxodede have a strong pedagogical style and it makes it easier to digest information without all the finger-wagging and name calling. I honestly think some of us non-ADOS can a lot from these threads if we approach them with genuine interest and curiosity.




*Sidenote* - ADOS may be a thing, but ACL is not. It just isn't... aint no such thing as an ACL movement. I know people use that to differentiate from ADOS, but you might as well say non-ADOS blacks.

 

[Roland Coltrane]

I read that calling somebody "Black" used to fighting words back in the day. (that was true all across the diaspora)

I would disagree to some extent about what the term "Black" meant once it was embraced......the one who coined the term "Black Power" was Stokely Carmichael (K.Toure) was Trini......and I thought the term meant Black Americans, more specifically Blacks IN America. UnIess I have the dates incorrect "Black Power" as a slogan and mindset was before James Brown's record . Though clearly JB was more influential to people embracing the term "Black". I think in that era, people saw things more along racial lines.

I thought the term AA was more specific....and was directly addressing people with pre civil war roots in this country.Also that it embraced a term "African" that used to be fighting words if you called somebody that. I thought the term got traction and momentum from the same circle that created and pushed for national recognition of Black History Month, AA academia. I'm sure the release and success of Roots as book and mini series had a lot to do with African American catching on. Also, one of the victories of the Black Power Movement was the creation of Af-Ams or Black Studies Dept.s across universities. It's not surprising that the push for national recognition for the contributions that AAs made to American history would come from this circle, who had access to what was erased from history books.
Jackson coined it at a speech I guess, or he coined it to the press. He had the visibility to push it.

Dr John Henrik Clarke, who lived long enough to see several terms applied to his ethnic group, endorsed the term African American over Black . He said "a group 's name has to reflect culture and nationality, black tells you how you look doesn't tell you who you are"


speaking of melanoid...here is a clip of what today's "Foundational Black American" hashtag promoter was running with a few years back
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The clip isn't a response to you or anything you said...I just like to point out TN's hypocrisy when I get a chance to. My opinion doesn't matter and shouldn't to how other people identify....but people doing complete 180s on stances is noteworthy

so there's no room for people's views and opinions to change over time? is this supposed to be some kind of gotcha moment? if something makes sense to you then why wouldn't you change your views when presented with information that resonates with who you are presently?
I don't think the same way I did 6 years ago, 4 years ago, 2 years ago, shyt even 1 year ago.

 

[NoMoreWhiteWoman2020]

I never said stick to northern affairs. Keep showing your ass though.

@Get These Nets yo I said it, repped my guy after because I realize sometimes I get pissed when I hear people talk history that isn’t all the way real. I’m getting my PhD in this shyt and I spend a lot of time in real life deflecting bs. I apologized though bc we as black have to have more patience with each other but...

I wish people would ask more questions instead of making statements because others read that shyt and run with it. I’m knee deep in Afro American studies, I wish me, @Booksnrain and @xoxodede could start a black history Ados thread where people could ask the questions they want to know more about and we clear it up from them. We can’t have misinformation spread about our history

 

[Roland Coltrane]

They wouldn't get anything and that's already been discussed. They lived white lives and have no claim + minimal lineage. Your "gotcha" isn't new. Keep the fake "not to antagonize" disclaimer to yourself.

system still won't let me rep you